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New CZ 3D

jwallen

New member
Morning all,

I am picking up a new CZ 3D today and wondering if there is any helpful advise on the basics of this detector? I have moved on from Whites and decided to buy this machine after all the research I have been doing. Plus I am getting this unit from a guy who broke his back and has used it very little and is selling it to me for $500.00 along with killer bee headphones because he can no longer use this machine. Any help on this unit would be great.
 
Here are a few tips.

1 - Make sure you learn how to ground balance the machine using the bobbing method. It is not hard at all, and takes about 30 seconds to do. Just make sure when ground balancing, that the coil is over a clean area of ground without any metal.

2 - Do not run the sensitivity higher than 2 or 3 in discriminate mode until you have a few hunts under your belt and start to understand what the detector can do. Too many new CZ users crank up the discrimination when they first use it, and the machine, when run hot, can false a lot ( especially if not properly ground balanced) and will also high tone hit on iron more, which tends to frustrate new users. Once you get to a certain level of sensitivity, the depth of the machine levels off ( ie, there is no more depth increase) but the foot print of the coil becomes wider and the edges of the coil are more sensitive to targets. This does lead to falsing in certain situations ( ie, lots of targets in an area, trashy sites, lots of iron, etc.) Much better to dial down the sensitivity in those places. The CZ will run plenty deep at sensitivity level 2 or 3.

3 - When running in discriminate mode, set the level to 0 so you hear ALL targets. You WANT to listen to the iron hits, which are low tones. This way, when the CZ falses on iron and gives a high tone on occasion when sweeping ( along with low tones. This is known as the low tone/high tone bounce) you will be able to hear both low and high tones at level 0 and can make a better decision to dig or not. Lots of people run the CZ on level 1 or higher, which discriminates out iron, but also does not give off the low tone. If running on level 1 or higher, if there is a low tone/high tone bounce, you will only hear the high tone, and think it is a good target and end up digging iron. I only run my CZ's on level 0 in discriminate mode. Sometimes it can be a pain in high iron littered sites, but it can also sniff out coins in between the iron. When you get that nice, soft, repeatable high tone hit, you know you have coin.

4 - Make sure you sweep the target from multiple angles. When you get those repeatable high tone hits from multiple angles, dig em up !

5 - The CZ is a moderate to slow sweep detector. It is not a fast sweep machine like some of the others. Keep the coil low and level, and sweep slow. One of the great things about the CZ is you can scrub the coil on the ground and it will not false ( as long as the machine is set up correctly GB and sensitivity wise).

6 - For the 3D, if you are going to run in enhanced mode, be aware that sites that are trashy ( tabs, aluminum bits, etc.), the machine will ID them as high tone in that mode. If you are going to hunt parks and areas that have trash, use the machine in salt mode. You can try enhanced mode, but it may be too much as the machine is geared in that mode to bring out older coins such as V nickles and Indian Head pennies ( along with some gold), and hit them as high tone.

7 - Remember the CZ has modulated audio. When volume is set at 4 or lower, deeper targets will sound softer. When volume is set at 5 or over, the machine is in audio boost and all targets, loudness wise, sound the same ( ie, both shallow and deep targets will hit at the same volume level). This is more of a preference as to how you want to hear your targets.

8 - HAVE FUN. Once you start to understand this machine and what it can do, you will be very happy with it. And do not be discouraged when you dig a few deep iron targets or nails. I don't think there is one CZ user out there that has not done that before ! When you dig that first, deep old silver coin, and continue to find them, you will be smiling.

JC
 
One caution I might add is to keep an eye on your sensitivity control. My headphone cord sometimes wants to turn my sensitivity down or up. Neither of these is a good thing. I have a habit of waving my ring over the coil, after I have recovered a target or laid the machine down to make sure things are well in CZ land.

HH, Don
 
I will be receiving my CZ-3D soon and you guys have made my hunting easier with these tips. Thanks:thumbup:
 
They said you should get it by Tuesday. I sure hope, so, I am sorta wishing for Monday myself. Let us know how you get along. If you end up doing a bunch of beach hunting, I know I will be picking your brain soon.

HH, Don
 
I am glad that this thread came up.
I have a cz3d coming tomorrow and was starting to get nervous, becuse it seems that not too many people swing one and i cant find very much info on them..
 
well space weasel i've been talking with a guy that owns one and there a deep seeker for sure and be ready to get the silver!
 
You will like the CZ a lot. I see you run the Tesoros...great machines. You will find the CZ heavy compared to them, but you will also find the 3D deeper and it can ID better at depth.

Make sure you run it with low sensitivity at first, and in enhanced mode only if there isn't much trash/aluminum around. Once you get the feel for the machine, which will not take long, you can juice it up and run in enhanced at the older sites. Also...swing it slow to moderate.

The only thing I found with enhanced mode, and this is just the way the machine is designed, is that it will ID high tone on a lot of aluminum trash. Enhanced mode is designed to bring out the older nickels and Indian heads as high tone, where on the other, older CZ models, these coins would/may ID as mid tone. It's just the nature of the beast, and the 3D can be set in salt mode to eliminate a lot of that when hunting in trashy areas.

Last thing...not sure if you read my post, but run the CZ at discrimination level 0...you want to hear ALL targets...especially iron so you have a much better idea what the unit is telling you.

JC
 
amcjavelin said:
well space weasel i've been talking with a guy that owns one and there a deep seeker for sure and be ready to get the silver!

I have heard that as well...::detecting:
I see you are running a 1270 now.....I was thinking about getting a 1270..
How do yo like yours???
 
therover said:
You will like the CZ a lot. I see you run the Tesoros...great machines. You will find the CZ heavy compared to them, but you will also find the 3D deeper and it can ID better at depth.

Make sure you run it with low sensitivity at first, and in enhanced mode only if there isn't much trash/aluminum around. Once you get the feel for the machine, which will not take long, you can juice it up and run in enhanced at the older sites. Also...swing it slow to moderate.

The only thing I found with enhanced mode, and this is just the way the machine is designed, is that it will ID high tone on a lot of aluminum trash. Enhanced mode is designed to bring out the older nickels and Indian heads as high tone, where on the other, older CZ models, these coins would/may ID as mid tone. It's just the nature of the beast, and the 3D can be set in salt mode to eliminate a lot of that when hunting in trashy areas.

Last thing...not sure if you read my post, but run the CZ at discrimination level 0...you want to hear ALL targets...especially iron so you have a much better idea what the unit is telling you.

JC
The weight wont be a issue...
Thank you for the great advice and i will definitely follow it.
I don't hardly ever use the disc anyway, but i have read that the cz3d is more sen when you do use a little disc, (that just seems odd to me).
Thank you
Shawn
 
space weasel it took some time to get use to but i love it now i run it very simalar to the tejon i run in iron disc mode cranked all the way up then i use my normal as a secondary disc about 5 just so i can keep nickel range in there and this thing will go deep i absolutely love the audio on the fishers and i've read the 1270 is not good coin hunter well i got news for them the 1270 is really good at finding them the only down side is the pinpoint is wide and when you think you have a decent target you got to back the sens all the way back then it will narrow the pointing on it or make more accurate it seems to work for me any ways this is where my 1236x2 excels at the 5khz really loves coins and silver for sure!
 
The 3D with the 10.5 is all ive been using this spring, just got the bigger coil & it kicks a$$. I had mine for 4 years now and its all i use. Your first season youll be checking the meter, but then youll mostly go by sound as you learn what its telling you. I use mine out in the woods far from any elec interference so i play with the sens mostly above 5 with the disc on 1 and i also check my ground balance often, just to be sure. That big coil with that touch extra gain on the sens has me digging large cents well over 10 inches.
 
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