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JEG

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After asking many dealers and users about what is the "best" metal detector - the first choice was overwhelmingly the Explorer SE. So three weeks ago, I bought one and have spent quite a bit of time using it. Sometimes, it is very impressive and other times very frustrating.
I have been using factory presets and finding quite a bit of pennies and dimes, not much else. The pinpointing does not seem to be very accurate and I spend a lot time trying to find the coin...

I am open to suggestions on settings, pinpointing, recovery and any other tips that would be helpful. My previous detectors are a White's Eagle and Garret Treasure Ace. Is the Explorer SE the best ? I would like to know if any has any experience with Tesoro detectors...

Thanks and all help would be appreciated.
 
Sounds like a good probe may go along way to end some of your frustration. I've had the Sunray probe, Periscope, and now the Uniprobe.

I've settled on the Uniprobe because you can use it on any detector and you only have to buy it once. If you only plan to use one detector, then I would go with the Sunray probe as it is a little cheaper. The Uniprobe gives you about double the depth though.

On the other matters, bench testing and using a test garden seems like it would help you. The SE can find just about anything it passes over. You just need to have your ears trained to know what you are hearing. The SE is as good as it gets with only one or two true competitors. You can be confident in your detector. It may take a little more time.

I think the main thing you need is the correct location. You can't find things if they are not there. This might mean a little research and door knocking. But if you are in the right location and are up to speed on the SE you will find things.

That has been my experience anyway.

HH Alton
 
Thanks HH

I am getting a CP-200 probe from KellyCO. And, I also have a 7 1/2 inch coil, and ordered a 14 excelerator coil. Do you have success with different coil sizes? Yes, you are right about the location.
Had some success with my old White and Garret detectors. The Explorer does identify many targets when I use it - it is just the that reading are in the "trash" ranges - at least I think it is trash from my bench testings and experimenting with pulltabs, foil, nails etc.
Do you dig all trash ? Where do the reading range for jewelry and rings ? Does jewelry sound different than trash ? I prefer to use the digital reading rather than the Smart Find.
Thanks for getting back to me. What has your experience been with metal detecting and the Explorer ?

Thanks Again

John
 
John, do you have any gold rings? You can use them to see where they hit on your detector. Or use a friend's ring or go to a jewelry store.

The hit all the way from the bottom where nickels hit up to around middle of the screen or a little highter. Notice on the factory screen where the black meets the white screen? That is the edge where gold rings hit.

I am so used to detecting in All Metal now with the Explorers that I can't bear to detect in factory mode. It just takes too long to reset for me.
 
I use different coils for different situations.

I have the Minelab 800 and the Sunray 8 for the small coils I use. The 800 is actually quite a bit smaller than the Sunray 8 and is my favorite small coil. I use it in trashy areas and I do recommend it.

I mainly hunt with the stock coil though. It is deep and and usually has no issues with moderately trashy ground. It covers the ground faster than a small coil and it is not too heavy.

I also have the Excelerator 14 and the Sunray 12. The 14 gives the best depth and ground coverage. It is surprisingly stable. It is heavy and I use the Swingy Thingy if I'm going to use it more than 20-30 minutes.

As for finding coins, the SE is great at IDing them at depth, and works well in difficult (mineralized) ground at finding them. I have never used the digital screen. My experience has been that I can get more information about the target by the sound first. Then I go to the smart screen and get more out of it by seeing where a target falls on that screen. A couple of numbers usually don't help me too much on deep or iffy targets. Seeing the cross hair jump from one place to another sometimes gives me a clue as to what it might be. The digital numbers would not mean much at depth I wouldn't think. But, I guess it is what you get used too.

As for finding jewelry items, they can hit almost anywhere on the smart screen or digital too for that matter. A small childs or ladies ring can read in the foil range. A large man's gold ring can read around the quarter range. Most hit in the pull tab range.

Keep in mind that many of our older coins also hit in the foil and pull tab range as well. But also remember that is not the detectors fault.

The detector can only take you so far before you have to kick in with some careful attention and deduction of your own.

For instance, if you have been pulling tabs up on the property at 2" and suddenly you hit one at 6" you should pause and ask, "How long have pull tabs been around and compare that to how deep you have been finding them?" "If it is not a pull tab, then what else could it be?" "At that depth, could it be a IH, $5.00 gold piece, wedding band, etc?"

Then you may start looking at other things about the reading. Is it a smooth reading at the beginning, middle, and end of the sweep? Or, does it make a squawk sound at the ends. Good metal usually doesn't squawk!

Does the reading have a good tight repeatable signal, or does it spread out over quite a distance? Wide signals usually gives you a hint that it might be iron falsing on you or other trash. Gold and coins usually give a good tight signal on sweep and pinpoint.

Can you raise the coil another foot or so off the ground and still hear the target. Most likely not a coin or ring.

In time, you will learn even more techniques on your own to help you decide to dig or not. Of course, the only way you will know is to dig. I've heard others mention on these forums that the best discriminator is a shovel. For the time being, that might serve you well as you learn the SE.

Another way to look at it is that good things will happen as long and you keep swingin your coil and digging up what you hear.

As I said earlier, it will depend on your location too.

HH Alton
 
Hi HH

Thanks for the useful info and the length of your reply. I will dig most everything for now, and pay attention to the sound and locations on the smart screen.
How long have you been detecting ?
 
Tony,

Thanks for the info. Why do you detect in all metal ? Are you looking for mainly relics, or everything ? How long have you been detecting ?

J
 
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