Need Some Help

[Brett]

I picked up my Vision today and I'm very impressed with the construction, headphones and audio. To me, the audio seems way different and smoother than the DFX, but I'm no DFXpert.

When I first started messing around with it, I think I may have been in the Common mode. Then I moved to the Coins and Coin & Jewelery modes. Everything was very crisp and working fine, and then all of the sudden it started beeping every second or so but randomly. I could hold it up in the air and it would still do it. No other detectors were on, I even shut my cell phone off. This was outside of course, and I've never had this kind of interference with any other detector at this spot so I don't think it's interference. I've tried to Restore the programs, and that doesn't seem to help. The only thing that makes it quiet is if I run the Rx Gain down to 1 or 2. At 3 it's starting to beep randomly. Anyone having any problems like this? The thing that gets me is that it was perfect for about 10 minutes. I probably turned it off at some point and didn't use the headphones again, but rather the speaker. It was even fine for a little bit with just the speaker, and then it started going wacky.

I would really like to get this fixed up before tomorrow's hunt, or I'll have to revert to my E-Trac.

I hope I'm just doing something really stupid.

 

[fireball10x]

Did it do the same thing at another location

 

[steve herschbach]

Hi Brett,

Instead of backing the RX Gain down, try backing off the Disc Sensitivity.

Steve Herschbach

 

[Jason in TN]

Also with the detector on remove the Battery wait 1min put back in and start it up.
This should reset the computer in it if something is wrong there.

Good luck
Jason

 

[Brett]

Did it do the same thing at another location

Yup, it was doing it at home in my backyard too.

Hi Brett,

Instead of backing the RX Gain down, try backing off the Disc Sensitivity.

Steve Herschbach

I had my Disc Sens set to 80 the entire time. Is this abnormally high?

Also with the detector on remove the Battery wait 1min put back in and start it up.
This should reset the computer in it if something is wrong there.

Good luck
Jason

I know that's an old trick for the DFX (and maybe more) but is it safe to do with this new processor? Shouldn't turning it off and back on do the same thing? I did try power cycling and that didn't fix it.

Thanks for your attention guys... I should probably run the Ground Probe and see what it thinks I should set things to as well.

 

[steve herschbach]

Hi Brett,

80 is not all that high per se, but try a bit lower and see what happens.

Pulling the battery out certainly will not hurt.

Steve Herschbach

 

[Brett]

OK guys, went out in my back yard again and tried to locate my 8" dime. This dime is pretty easy to get with the E-Trac in manual sensitivity in the default coins program, but the DFX has trouble with a tone ID and VDI, but can pinpoint it.

I just found that the Vision can sound off on it in the Coins and Deep Silver programs. The problem was that I wasn't Ground Balancing long enough to get it stable. It seemed to take more than 4 pumps to stabilize. Once it did though, no more beeping and it sings in the Deep Silver program. The VDI bounces around dime and quarter, and the Analyze screen doesn't really show much with one frequency in Deep Silver. In Coins the three frequencies are all pretty close to each other and have a lot of ripple in them. But hey, it's singing WeeeeP, WeeeeP! That's good enough for me!!

Also, I noticed out there that sometimes the audio pops out of the speaker some of the time. I thought that was due to interference on the wireless channel. That's what I thought I read anyway. It does that to help alert you to the issue. I'll have to read that page about the changing the channel so I know how to play around with it tomorrow.

I was pretty afraid to ask for help on my issue because I didn't want to taint the good reviews so far. I knew it would be something simple.

Can't wait to get some real hunting in with this puppy

Any tips for getting it set up for deep silver coin hunting would be helpful. I.e. what are the proper steps to dial it in hot but not too hot that it's annoying me with chirps and burps.

 

[sumrtym]

Just a quick question, but do you think the signal given by the Vision was as good as the Etrac on that dime?

 

[steve herschbach]

"I was pretty afraid to ask for help on my issue because I didn't want to taint the good reviews so far. I knew it would be something simple."

You have a problem, we want to help. Can't get help if you do not ask! If anyone has an issue they should put it out for review.

Steve Herschbach

 

[CROCK of COINS]

I was going to say Ground Bal. What I found a few times...my thumb would come off the button mid pump and no balance was made :-( And how HIGH do I need to raise the coil :-|

Then today I put the BigFOOT on and had to find a way to ground bal. that thing ;-)

Have fun on tomorrow's(Sun.) hunt.

Jerry

 

[Brett]

Just a quick question, but do you think the signal given by the Vision was as good as the Etrac on that dime?

Once I properly G/B'd, yes.. it was a good signal, just as good as the E-Trac. But the thing is, I knew where the dime was and was not moving much away from it. Also, before I G/B'd I had no idea that I needed to G/B... for the most part. Sure the detector was acting erratic, but it wasn't super obvious when it was properly G/B'd. Also, I was running in Autotrac, so that also made me believe it should eventually G/B itself. Is that false?

In my limited testing on a hunt with the Vision, finding suitable targets proved difficult. Maybe I was just in some really pounded parks, but the Vision was sounding off a lot more than my E-Trac was. Basically, I felt like I didn't know what I was doing yet with the Vision... which is why I've posted a thread about getting help on setting it up properly. Once it's set properly, it's swing and dig! On my Sunday hunt I found one wheatie with the Vision at 2", and two wheaties (one at 2" one at 3") and a my first standing liberty quarter (1928 ) with my E-Trac, which was down about 8" and sounded like a dime. I used both detectors for about an equal amount of time at 5 different locations. I really wish I had found the SLQ with the Vision, helping to solidify the price I just paid for it, but it was not to be. Also, I was air testing the SLQ on the Vision and was having trouble getting it to VDI properly past 6.5". Only when I was running it really hot could I get more depth, in air. I just felt like I was doing something wrong. Please chime in on my Setup thread and help me out if you can. Thanks!

 

[Carolina Phil]

Keep your fingers crossed on that erratic beeping issue. I had an new XLT that done the same thing. I never did figure out what caused it. I'm pretty sure it wasn

 

[Brett]

Keep your fingers crossed on that erratic beeping issue. I had an new XLT that done the same thing. I never did figure out what caused it. I'm pretty sure it wasn

 

[tab-nabit]

I read to pump from 1 to 12 inches in one of the draft manuals that Delta196 was so kind to post the links.

 

[Jason in TN]

If interested in deep silver I would go with the Deep silver program. If it is to noisy you may need to turn the sensitivity down maybe use the probe to get recommended settings. and then go as much above them as possible to still keep it quite. I do not have mine yet so I can not help as much as I would like but used the DFX for years so I have some Ideas on settings. Could turn the bottle cap reject up to get rid of the nails but may case coins to break up too depending on your ground.

You said you got the Quarter with your E-Track could you tell it was a deep coin for sure? If so use the E-Track to find what you think is a deep coin then get the vision out before you dig it and make changes sensitivity, recovery, Freq, you will need to work with the detector in your ground and conditions to get it to work the best for you. Some ones settings from another area may not work at all for you. Hope this helps some and hope to have my detector the end of the week so I can look it over and have a better idea of what it can do.

Jason

 

[Brett]

You'll see if you get a Vision that the Deep Silver program sounds wacky... but cool. I just don't have it figured out yet.

The E-Trac said it was 8" deep, and yes I should have got the Vision out. I was covering a lot of ground to find that SLQ so that would have been a lot of toting around of an extra weight. I plan on burying some targets in my park at good depths and doing a comparative test. I know they won't be virgin coins, but they will be the same targets. Also, if I find some deep ones, I could mark them with surveyor paint and then come back with the Vision.

Thanks for your help!

 

[Jason in TN]

When I am comparing detectors I carry some flags or bright colored golf tees to mark targets. You will get the feel for it. I will have one as soon as my dealer calls said they should ship soon. Really need to understand what each adjustment does to make effective changes. Good luck and keep us informed.

Jason

 

[Brett]

Really need to understand what each adjustment does to make effective changes.
Jason

Exactly! But it also helps to know in what order to adjust them, or re-adjust them too.