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I had the first chance to get out for a hunt other then the parks I have been playing in since I got my AT Pro 2 weeks ago. Someone I have been hunting with a couple times called me and said he received permission to hunt some private property. He went last weekend and found 2 large cents and a 1723 Hibernia Copper and wanted to know if I wanted to back there with him today. We only spent an 1.5h hunting but I got my first Wheat and the piece below. We got back to his place and compared the piece to the Hibernia he found last week and it was identical in size (15/16" diameter) and shape, but his was legible. I almost went blind trying to find something on it....lol. While researching it I came across a piece of information about a "penny button". You can see on the photo, one side has a mark on it that appears something could be missing.

So....If a button....did they use colonial copper back then to make buttons? It seems to me, back then, that would be an expenseive button. Also, Is it possible to have a coin in the ground for over 250 years and loose it's marking's?


Thanks
Denis
 
Its probably a button , and sometimes a old coin that been in the ground could loose the face but it depends if it was I highly mineralized ground or like in a farm field where fertilizer is used regularly could deteriorate a coin espically copper , hank
 
The second picture looks like a flat button with the eye broken off the back.
 
That seems too low to be copper.
 
I just tried it again and an air test was again....66-67. I placed it on the ground and it bounced around from 65 to as high as 72. The high reading was when I lifted coil higher above the piece. My yard is not the best for detecting though. Where I found this was very clean compared to my yard. I do not remember what the reading was yesterday before I dug.

Thanks
Denis
 
I found a 1723 Hibernia (in my front lawn!) with my former detector, which didn't have a VDI indicator. However, I tested it thereafter with my AT Pro (both air test and in-ground) and it was a straight 80 VDI with no fluctuation. The diameter of the Hibernia I found was 25mm. Pics of the front & back (post-cleaning) are below. You can read about that find (and the ID process) at the link in my signature (article is called "An ID or Bust: The Long Journey to ID a Colonial Coin" from May archive). Enjoy.
 
Okay..........I had feeling this wasn't a coin when I saw the mark on the side. Having being found in the area of where colonial coins were found, I just had a feeling in may be of that era.
Hank68 mentions it just might be a button........would it come up at a different number or does all copper usually come around the same? I have two list of AT Pro vdi Numbers and they show no copper in the range I am talking about. Plus, neither list shows a button.
Sorry for all the questions but I am still learning and my curiosity has got me.

Thanks
Denis
 
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