BRIGANTIUM
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Hi, i,ve been detecting whith my white
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Need help whith my white
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BRIGANTIUM
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Because i start detecting with that mode and i think it was the easier one. May be it is better detecting in other mode but i don
BRIGANTIUM
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I always use it in geb-sat mode with all the controls at "P". The problems starts when i try to detect in the wet-sand, the detectors gives a lot of false soudns. I
Most all single frequency machines will false on the wet salt sands of the beach. At best, you can reduce your sensitivity and increase your disc setting to try to eliminate some of it
Whites makes the dual frequency DFX that will work on the beach. Also, the White's Beach Hunter ID was made especially for this situation. It is dual frequency
Whites makes the dual frequency DFX that will work on the beach. Also, the White's Beach Hunter ID was made especially for this situation. It is dual frequency
BRIGANTIUM
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Ok thanks a lot, so if i want to detect in the wett sand i
BRIGANTIUM said:The problems starts when i try to detect in the wet-sand, the detectors gives a lot of false sounds.
I've got the similar XL-Pro ... I believe the real issue is that it does not have the ground balance range to ground balance to the wet sand on a salt water beach. Multi-frequency detectors that ground balance to the wet salt sand do work very well, however a single frequency detector that ground balances all the way to the wet salt does well too.
The best compromise I've found so far is to start in geb-disc mode with all the controls at "P". Set up ground balance over the DRY sand that is near the wet area that you are going to hunt and lock it. Turn the threshold down to barely audible or slightly lower. Go to the wet area and start hunting while slowly turning the Sig Bal down until it isn't falsing too much. You do loose some depth and some sensitivity to very small targets, but it lets you hunt.
Smaller concentric coils tend to work better than big coils. If you are using the 9.5 inch coil, try using one of the 8 inch or 6 inch (or 5.3 inch) coils.
If you do a lot of wet sand hunting on salt water beaches, I'd consider saving for another detector. If you only hunt the wet salt sand sometimes, try all the suggestions above and experiment to see if some strange set up works better where you are hunting.
Best of luck!
tvr
People happily worked the wet sand years before twin or multifrequency detectors were even thought of.
Just as with land sites the effects of the ground (or in this case salt) have to be balanced out. Land is negative and the G.E.B. mode handles that. The wet salt beach is positive so your right in using the TR mode and adjusting that to balance out the salt. The correct position varies according to the beach and the different salinity levels but around the point that foil is knocked out is where the detector should become stable.
The only problem with this is that you have to use a higher level of discrimination than you might want to, which cuts depth, and there can still be problems from patches of black magnetic sand which is a negative mineral.
Just as with land sites the effects of the ground (or in this case salt) have to be balanced out. Land is negative and the G.E.B. mode handles that. The wet salt beach is positive so your right in using the TR mode and adjusting that to balance out the salt. The correct position varies according to the beach and the different salinity levels but around the point that foil is knocked out is where the detector should become stable.
The only problem with this is that you have to use a higher level of discrimination than you might want to, which cuts depth, and there can still be problems from patches of black magnetic sand which is a negative mineral.
Fishers Ghost
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The TR disc mode works ok on salt beaches if you use the disc control to tune the detector to the salt by using the disc control like a GB control .
My 6000 has a salt disc setting so I start with it set there and adjust it a bit as required. I can get my 6000 to run very smooth in the TR disc mode over salt.
But you have to dig all targets because at the salt setting the detector is accepting most metals as positive sigs..
When you adjust the disc to tune out salt in the TR mode it is oposite to the vlf GEB ground adjust in that if the signal increaces as the coil is lowered to the sand you set the disc higher until there is no change in the tone as the coil is lowered to the ground.
My 6000 has a salt disc setting so I start with it set there and adjust it a bit as required. I can get my 6000 to run very smooth in the TR disc mode over salt.
But you have to dig all targets because at the salt setting the detector is accepting most metals as positive sigs..
When you adjust the disc to tune out salt in the TR mode it is oposite to the vlf GEB ground adjust in that if the signal increaces as the coil is lowered to the sand you set the disc higher until there is no change in the tone as the coil is lowered to the ground.
BRIGANTIUM
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Ok, thanks a lot!!!. You say that you have to dig all targets, but can
Fishers Ghost is referring to a proceedure known as "Double Ground Balance". First ground balance as normal in GEB/Norm. Then switch to TR/Disc and ground balance again, except use the DESC dial and make the corrections in the opposite manner than was done with the GEB dial.Be sure to squeeze and release the trigger before lowering the loop. When the same sound is heard on the ground as in the air, the detector is balanced to the ground on both GEB/NORM and TR/DISC modes.You'll have to dig all targets, but the detector will be double balanced and achieve its best depth.