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Need Help Please
- Thread starter spnrb8
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GeorgeinSC
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Lots of folks will see your post Give it a little time and you will have at least a dozen opinions. I am not familiar with either machine so no opinion from me.
REVIER
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spnrb8 said:
No, more will see it now because it is in the correct place for comparisons.
I would start a new thread, however, and throw all models you are comparing into the title so people will notice it better and respond.
"Need help" is just too general.
I never held either of your choices so I can't give a hands on opinion but I have read that most that use them seem to love both of them.
As far as the T2 I do know it has a very large iron disc area from 0-40 which might come in handy in certain situations...I believe both the Omega 8000 and the newer 8500 is the same.
I hunt for coins and jewelry and prefer a less compressed foil and other upper areas for more control.
The F70 and the F75 are built on the same core platform as the T2 so they are close cousins but the iron on these two only ranges from 0-15 which works out for me perfectly.
They say the T2 is suited for relics, the F75 is more for coin hunting but they both seem to find just about anything fairly easily.
All are good, all have their fans.
Right now you can get a T2 classic new for $499, maybe less with discounts, I know for sure the anniversary edition F75 being offered for $599 can be picked up for $500 from most dealers right now which is a fantastic deal.
Both Omega models come in close to this pricepoint also so quite a decision ahead of you.
More owners will come on soon with actual user information I am sure.
Good post, REVIER.
spnrb8, starting a new thread with a better title is a good idea. When you do (assuming that you do), explaining what's relevant to you would help. For example you've got a Delta (very good machine in its category, by the way). There are things you like about it, and things you don't like about it (presumably capabilities it doesn't have that you wish it did have), therefore you're looking to "upgrade". Then a description of the kinds of things youj're intending to do with your next machine, and what kind of money you were thinking of spending.
That'll narrow it down so the information posted by other forum denizens stands a chance of actually being relevant.
I'll offer some quickie opinions.
1. The Omega 8500 is similar in character to the Delta, but is a little more sensitive and has many more features. For you, it'll have a short learning curve because of your familiarity with the Delta.
2. There are higher performance machines not far from the price tag of an Omega 8500 (for example T2, F70): because they're more of a racehorse personality and more dissimilar compared to the Delta, there's more of a learning curve.
3. If you're doing tot lots and parks where digging deep is a bad thing, not a good thing, you're probably better off with a lighter, simpler machine (for example the Delta you've already got) than a racehorse machine, and a small searchcoil for your Delta might be all you need for an "upgrade".
4. If you do relic hunting in open fields, then you definitely need to go beyond the Omega. The F70 is a very good choice: REVIER is our forum expert on the F70 so you'll have help with the learning curve. And actually the F70 is probably the easiest to learn of the high performance machines.
5. Regarding the F70, it's a bit of a "sleeper", it never got the splash that the T2 and F75 did. Performance-wise I regard it as equal to those machines, with a better user interface and a slightly superior discrimination system. What it doesn't have is manual control over ground balancing: once you learn to trust the pushbutton ground balancing, that's no longer a big deal. Since you have apparently never done manual ground balancing anyhow, the lack of manual ground balancing won't even be relevant to you.
6. You might also want to look into our 19 kHz machines (G2+, F19, etc.) For open field work these are not quite as "deep" as the racehorse machines, but many users regard them as having superior target separation in trashy areas, and slightly more accurate discrimination and target ID. With a small searchcoil, they're almost impossible to beat on a trashy site.
7. If you intend to do gold prospecting in addition to more general purpose beeping, and open field relic hunting isn't a high priority, that really narrows it down: go with one of our 19 kHz machines. And before you even think of gold prospecting, first understand what you're getting yourself into. The book "Gold Prospecting with a VLF Metal Detector" on the Fisher and Teknetics websites (and available in paperback at some dealers) is a good introduction.
--Dave J.
spnrb8, starting a new thread with a better title is a good idea. When you do (assuming that you do), explaining what's relevant to you would help. For example you've got a Delta (very good machine in its category, by the way). There are things you like about it, and things you don't like about it (presumably capabilities it doesn't have that you wish it did have), therefore you're looking to "upgrade". Then a description of the kinds of things youj're intending to do with your next machine, and what kind of money you were thinking of spending.
That'll narrow it down so the information posted by other forum denizens stands a chance of actually being relevant.
I'll offer some quickie opinions.
1. The Omega 8500 is similar in character to the Delta, but is a little more sensitive and has many more features. For you, it'll have a short learning curve because of your familiarity with the Delta.
2. There are higher performance machines not far from the price tag of an Omega 8500 (for example T2, F70): because they're more of a racehorse personality and more dissimilar compared to the Delta, there's more of a learning curve.
3. If you're doing tot lots and parks where digging deep is a bad thing, not a good thing, you're probably better off with a lighter, simpler machine (for example the Delta you've already got) than a racehorse machine, and a small searchcoil for your Delta might be all you need for an "upgrade".
4. If you do relic hunting in open fields, then you definitely need to go beyond the Omega. The F70 is a very good choice: REVIER is our forum expert on the F70 so you'll have help with the learning curve. And actually the F70 is probably the easiest to learn of the high performance machines.
5. Regarding the F70, it's a bit of a "sleeper", it never got the splash that the T2 and F75 did. Performance-wise I regard it as equal to those machines, with a better user interface and a slightly superior discrimination system. What it doesn't have is manual control over ground balancing: once you learn to trust the pushbutton ground balancing, that's no longer a big deal. Since you have apparently never done manual ground balancing anyhow, the lack of manual ground balancing won't even be relevant to you.
6. You might also want to look into our 19 kHz machines (G2+, F19, etc.) For open field work these are not quite as "deep" as the racehorse machines, but many users regard them as having superior target separation in trashy areas, and slightly more accurate discrimination and target ID. With a small searchcoil, they're almost impossible to beat on a trashy site.
7. If you intend to do gold prospecting in addition to more general purpose beeping, and open field relic hunting isn't a high priority, that really narrows it down: go with one of our 19 kHz machines. And before you even think of gold prospecting, first understand what you're getting yourself into. The book "Gold Prospecting with a VLF Metal Detector" on the Fisher and Teknetics websites (and available in paperback at some dealers) is a good introduction.
--Dave J.