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NEED HELP: GOIN CRAZY

DUCTMAN

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I COULD REALLY USE SOME EXPERT ADVISE, I HAVE 3 SITES ALL HOMES WITH BARNS ALL BUILT IN THE 1830'S ONE OF THE HOMES WAS A GOVENERS HOUSE AND ANOTHER ONE WAS AN OLD INN, I AM STILL KINDA NEW AT THIS HAD MY MD A YEAR NOW I CAN NOT FIND ANY MONEY AND I SPEND ABOUT 4-5 HOURS EACH TIME I GO.
LOTS OF SQUARE NAILS AND PIECES OF ALUMINUM FROM THE SIDING OF THE HOME, THE ALUMINUM READS 34-36 I TRY MAINLY TO GO BY THE TONES BUT WILL A CORRODED COIN GIVE OFF A LOWER TONE?EVERY WHERE I PUT THE DAM THING DOWN GOES OFF A GOOD READING. WILL HOMES LIKE THIS NOT PRODUCE MUCH?I NEED TO FIND OUT WHERE THE MONEY MAKER SPOTS ARE. WHAT ABOUT THE STRIP OF GRASS BETWEEN THE SIDEWALK AND THE ROAD?I ALSO THINK A PLACE WHERE A FAIR OR SOMETHING HAS BEEN?
THANKS TO ANYONE THAT CAN HELP.. P.S I HAVE BEEN TRYING COIN AND JEW MODE BUT ALL METAL SEEMS TO GET A FASTER RESPONSE. JOE
 
I've been "out of circulation" for a while, but I still own a Quatro, and I couldn't help but try and "take a stab" at this one. Whewwww! That's a pretty exciting email. I know your frustrated. Who wouldn't be, putting that kind of time in and not finding any coins. I've been there myself. My first thought is, no matter what, I wouldn't put these sites on the back burner for too long, or someone else might clean them out. I know that's always the case with any site we might search, but these sound like good possibilities, especially because they're so old, and the one that really gets my blood pumping is the inn. I know I may be reaching for it, here, but using my convoluted imagination, I'm thinking that if this were a really OLD, inn, like it looks like, it might have had wooden floors, you know ,,, the kind of floors that if someone left a tip, that fell off the table, the tip might fall through the cracks of the floor down to the dirt ground, since back then, they probably didn't use concrete slabs. I know that's only a guess, but my line of thinking on all of this stuff is: "where do people hang out, where do they use or lose money, and what are the possibilities of all that". I got some of this stuff from an old Charles Garret book, but to me anywhere near some trees where kids might have climbed or been on a tree swing, and lost a few coins??? maybe they were shooting marbles and lost some coins out of their pockets when they pulled the marbles out?? I know it's all a "crap shoot", but then again our whole hobby is a crap shoot. We never know where the loot is FOR SURE, till we swing the coil, but the other "idea" I'd be thinking of is, you know back then a lot of people didn't trust banks, and hid their money in "metal boxes" (paper money) and/or, coins in a jar, etc. I know a lot of people hid stuff in their walls, and possibly if there's any structure left, you might search the walls, etc. My other thought is if I were gonna hide a mason jar of coins, where would I hide it? I'd hide it in a place where I thought I could find it again, like so many steps from the house, or near a tree, or fence post, or corner of the house. I don't know, you have to use your imagination on all this stuff, but I'd say there's some real possibilities for buried money. If you're really ambitious, you might even "grid off" different sections of the land to look for stuff, and mark it so you don't go back over it. As far as having to dig too much aluminum, I'm not sure how you could get out of that one. I know the melted chunks of aluminum cans I found around the beach fire rings, almost drove me nuts, but you might just have to dig them, because I know most coins are in the 34 to 36 numeric category also. (if they're copper, silver or clad). Also, if you don't have Andy Sabisches book Mastering the Quatro, I'd get it for sure. It's the bible of the Quatro, with a ton of great information. Also, it sounds like you rely a lot on the tones or (sounds) which is great, but by all means don't stop using the numeric read outs. To me they're the most valuable, and the tones just add more possible "information". Maybe it's the other way around for you, but I sure wouldn't stop using the numeric readouts. Keep ground balancing for sure, from time to time, and keep your sensitivity in check. Use automatic if you have to, but, you also might want to try some different coils (just for fun) if you have them. Maybe that could give you an edge. Your certainly right about the "carnival idea" or old race track idea, or anywhere where people might have lost money, gambled with money, etc. Good luck. I hope I haven't bored you to death with my "semi-novel" I just wrote here, but I'd love to hear how you do in the future on this or any of your hunts. Marc (backslider).
 
DUCTMAN said:
I COULD REALLY USE SOME EXPERT ADVISE, I HAVE 3 SITES ALL HOMES WITH BARNS ALL BUILT IN THE 1830'S ONE OF THE HOMES WAS A GOVENERS HOUSE AND ANOTHER ONE WAS AN OLD INN, I AM STILL KINDA NEW AT THIS HAD MY MD A YEAR NOW I CAN NOT FIND ANY MONEY AND I SPEND ABOUT 4-5 HOURS EACH TIME I GO.
LOTS OF SQUARE NAILS AND PIECES OF ALUMINUM FROM THE SIDING OF THE HOME, THE ALUMINUM READS 34-36 I TRY MAINLY TO GO BY THE TONES BUT WILL A CORRODED COIN GIVE OFF A LOWER TONE?EVERY WHERE I PUT THE DAM THING DOWN GOES OFF A GOOD READING. WILL HOMES LIKE THIS NOT PRODUCE MUCH?I NEED TO FIND OUT WHERE THE MONEY MAKER SPOTS ARE. WHAT ABOUT THE STRIP OF GRASS BETWEEN THE SIDEWALK AND THE ROAD?I ALSO THINK A PLACE WHERE A FAIR OR SOMETHING HAS BEEN?
THANKS TO ANYONE THAT CAN HELP.. P.S I HAVE BEEN TRYING COIN AND JEW MODE BUT ALL METAL SEEMS TO GET A FASTER RESPONSE. JOE


Hello Joe, how's it going? Sounds like you have an interesting few sites to work on! Are the square nails copper? As for the barns, you might find some interesting finds like horse shoes, stirrups, harness bit and pieces, and the odd old shoes or buttons from shirts and trousers. You'll find buttons will read from +9 to + 11, and if you go over an area where your detector overloads, but the size of the object isn't all that big, it might be worth digging it anyway to see what you'll come up with. Some type of relic I would imagine like the iron relic mentioned above. The are the areas I would concentrate on if coin hunting: from the front door of the house/homestead, on either side of an existing footpath, and out toward any home dug gardens left behind. A good indication of a once existing garden are where ever bulbs beginning to flower, like dafodils: there you can be sure it's part of a garden, and like us today, the people back then would have droppped money from their pockets into the soil. Expect to raise your sensitivity over those areas, because if they were well cultivated and coins will be buried deeper than normal, anything from 12 to 16 inches down. If you're allowed to, it might pay to take off the first inch or two of top soil so the detector will read the deeper coins. Aluminium is a pain on any site, but you can diferentiate between it and coin metal. Usually I've found that aluminium gives a tinny higher pitched tone, whereas coins are more of a definite high pitched tone, slighly lower than the alum. It might just take a bit of practice to learn the tones, but you can do it. Put it this way, it's worth digging everything, and putting the rubbish aside as you're only going to help the detecting by getting rid of the junk, and leaving behind quite possibly the relic, especially if your sites are very trashy. But you'll find that by working on the sites for a while, you'll learn the tones that will tell you if it's junk or not. I have a few favorite sites that I visit every few weeks, and have been going back again and again for the last 4 or 5 years. I still pull out relics. It might interest you to know that it was several months once I first started detecting these sites before I started picking up coins. Sometimes, it just take time to get to know a site, and by you going back time and again , you'll get there.
The other areas to detect for coins are: think of where the clothes line might have been. Often coins would faal from pockets that hung on clothes lines, or loose buttons came off in the wind.I found buttons, coins, buckles and even a fob watch under a makeshift clothes. Amazing what's missed when washing all those years ago!
Check out any very old oak, pine or other decidous trees that Europeans might have planted. Often they buried there rubbish and planted a tree over the top. You might have a sprinkling of relics around these trees, and a possible bottle dump. If the dump isn't too deep, some of it's metal rubbish might be detected by your coil. I once found a dump this way with might detector, while looking for something else.
Current;y, I'm working on a brand new (old) homestead site. The main dirt road leading tp where the homestead once sttod is around 400-500mt long, and I've been detecting along it and found a few threepences dating in the 1950-1960. Nothing else was found, but coins!! Near an old sheep shearing enclosure I found a silver picture frame to my surprise.
I can't stress enough this point: don't use any other mode but All Metal Mode for working those sites. As much of a pian it can seem for all the noise it gives, put up with it. You will get use to it, and not miss anything. I don't use anything else on my sites, except occasionally if I'm checking out a specific site that merits using coin/jewelry, but it's always with a little discrimination. But then there's the nulling. Just depends on the site. the sites I go to mostly i have been hunting on now for years.
All I can say is, when you're at the site you're working on, try to imagine where people would have walked, played, ran, worked, and what they might have worn, held in their pockets, where they might have sat for a drink in the shade from the sun, that sort of thing. This will help you a lot in determining where to hunt, and quite possibly what you're likely to find, even before you find it! All the best with it Joe.
Golden:detecting:
 
Right on Golden!!!! You might think about writing a book, my dear, about all this stuff!!!! You may think I'm kidding, but I'm not kidding. I think you have enough experience and expertise you might at least think about it. I'm talking here to Golden who is an expert with the Quatro, let alone metal detecting in general, and I can't say enough about this email that is so informative to everyone. I know enough, I believe, about Golden's successes to say something like that. Anyone can take it or leave it, but she has been so consistent with this metal detecting endeavor, that I honestly believe she has the credentials to write such a book. That's just my take on it, but I'm sticking to what I'm saying here. Duct man, I hope you take all this to heart and not necessarily give up on your home sites. I never even thought of the "close line" idea. Makes sense to me, and what she said about the thought process of "wherever people might have been active and possibly lost money" to me, is the key of this whole metal detecting deal. We need to always think like that. It only makes sense to me, as far as finding things people might have lost. What and where were the possibilities that people might have lost something over the years???? Just use your imagination, but by all means, read this forums emails and the past achieves to get some specific ideas on where to look. Marc Trainor.
 
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Gidday Marcus! You've got to stop singing my praises!:rofl: You say the nicest things!
Got out the other evening, for some night detecting on the goldfields. Really enjoyed it. Didn't find much as I kind of got caught up with walking through the scrub at night via headlamp. I disappeared for a while, and was rewarded with an old gunpowder flask in two halves. The fellow that was with us asked hubby if I might be lost out there in the dark! Hubby replied that I wouldn't get lost in these hills as I knew them well. Nice to know he has that much faith in me! Anyway, later on we enjoyed a nice hot cup of coffee (hubby forgot to pack the bickies), still nice anyway. It started raining lightly, but we stayed a while longer and detecting an old bridle track close to the vehicle. Once I've organised some photos, I'll post them. I'm hoping to sneak out again this week for a day's detecting. Except I've got a bad head cold, my sinuses ache, ouch.
HH Golden:blink::):detecting::minelab:
 
Hey Ductman,
For what it's worth you may just slow down just a little and try that. This is my first year with a Quattro and I wasn't finding any coins either, until I slowed my swing a little. Suddenly I started finding some silver and wheaties. The speed that works for me is a little slower than my old White's, but I am getting more coins than ever before. I am going back over many of my old haunts, and finding more, better and deeper. I had a few weeks in May when I doubted my sanity with the Quattro, but not any more. Reading Andy Sabiches book was worth about a hundred times what it cost. I think I have read many parts of it ten times or more. Good Luck.
Mark
 
Ductman, The stock coil is too big when there are lots of targets around. Too many targets under coil at same time. I have used the 8" and the 7" x 4 1/2" and they are excellent in areas with too many targets.
 
I also use the 7.5 inch coil for trashy ground. I believe there's a 5 inch coil you can buy too for the harder to reach areas like under scrub and twigs or between branches. But I find the 7.5 inch works quite well. When you become more comfident with your machine, try going back to the bigger 10.5 inch coil for goldfields. If the ground isn't too trashy, you'll pick up more targets with better depth.
Golden:detecting:
 
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