Need feedback please silver umax vs. Mojave:confused:

[C.J.M.]

Hea guys looking at this two tesoros one being the Silver umax and the Mojave which one would you chose?Appreicate some feedbackThank you.cjm

 

[joe dirt_1]

I have both detectors and I seem to prefer the Silver's audio over the Mohave.....it just seems to be a cleaner sound to me, and a bit more descriptive on good targets. To be fair though, I have to admit I have much more time using the Silver than the Mohave in the field. Both detectors have similar depth capabilities and i do like the mineralization switch on the Mohave... It works very well.

The smaller 7 inch coil on the Mohave has better trash separation than the 8 inch donut coil that comes stock on the Silver, although the 8 inch donut is a great all around coil. The 5.75 inch coil is a good investment for both detectors for hunting in the trash. I bought a new RSD coil for the Silver, but haven't used it yet. I believe it should add an inch or so more depth to both detectors, and pick good targets out of the trash better than the concentric coils. If the ground you normally hunt is on the mild side, I don't think you would go wrong with either detector. If the ground is a little on the hotter side, then the Mohave gets the vote for the fact it has the mineral switch. Both detectors would serve as good back up detectors, or something younger kids or a person just getting into the hobby can use and understand. You should be happy with either detector...both will find the treasures........HH

Roger

 

[C.J.M.]

Thank you joe,appreciate your feedback

 

[slingshot]

I liked my Compadre better than my Silver due to the ability to work in iron. Definitely the Mojave. IMHO.

 

[walnut]

I liked my Compadre better than my Silver due to the ability to work in iron. Definitely the Mojave. IMHO.

Interested in why you say that the Compadre is good in iron? I guess you mean the target separation in iron areas? The Compadre does discriminate iron pretty well but I assumed that the Silver discriminated iron even better.

I like my 6" model and have found a lot with it, but it is pretty chirpy, has 180 ED, and can be a little overwhelming unless you are patient with all the little hits. Kinda assumed the Mojave was the same way.

 

[Monte]

Same Interchangeable coil option and external Sensitivity control, but the Mojave also offers:

• ED-180 Discrimination adjustment range instead of the ED-120 Disc. range of the Silver [size=small]micro[/size]MAX.

• And the Mojave has the real benefit of the two-position, preset GB toggle selector to provide peak performance in low-to moderate min realized areas or for highly mineralized conditions.

• It comes standard with the new 'Precision' 7" Concentric coil which I prefer to the 8" donut coil.

Just my opinions and why a Mojave in one of several units in my 'detector team.'

Monte

 

[REVIER]

The Compadre has a few superpowers most of the others in the Tesoro line don't have.
The Mojave, however, does possess those same abilities and it is also enhanced in other areas compared to the Compadre like better depth for one.
I never swung a Silver but I did own a Vaq and 3 coils and I traded the whole package away to get my Mojave and I am thrilled that I did...no regrets at all.
Here in my area, the mineralized and iron infested devil dirt here in the SE., the Mojave works better than either my Vaq or the Compadre.

Many think the Mojave is just a Compadre on steroids but I believe it is more than that.
Much more.

 

[doc holiday232]

Revier, I always luv to read your reports AND your "devil dirt" always brings a chuckle.

 

[slingshot]

I liked my Compadre better than my Silver due to the ability to work in iron. Definitely the Mojave. IMHO.

Interested in why you say that the Compadre is good in iron? I guess you mean the target separation in iron areas? The Compadre does discriminate iron pretty well but I assumed that the Silver discriminated iron even better.

I like my 6" model and have found a lot with it, but it is pretty chirpy, has 180 ED, and can be a little overwhelming unless you are patient with all the little hits. Kinda assumed the Mojave was the same way.

Well, while using my Silver, it was a choice of a/m- which sounded off on nails, paper clips, etc.- or lowest discrimination- which sometimes was too high for targets near these trash items. I especially remember getting a harsh "clack" sound on a quarter just under the surface with the Silver. Further investigation revealed washer under quarter. With the Compadre set at the "I" or "r" in iron, the quarter would have really sounded off- with NO worries about small nails or paper clips. IOW, 180° discrimination.

 

[slingshot]

The Compadre has a few superpowers most of the others in the Tesoro line don't have.
The Mojave, however, does possess those same abilities and it is also enhanced in other areas compared to the Compadre like better depth for one.
I never swung a Silver but I did own a Vaq and 3 coils and I traded the whole package away to get my Mojave and I am thrilled that I did...no regrets at all.
Here in my area, the mineralized and iron infested devil dirt here in the SE., the Mojave works better than either my Vaq or the Compadre.

Many think the Mojave is just a Compadre on steroids but I believe it is more than that.
Much more.

Very interesting that it beats the Vaq! Your posts keep costing me money. May have to ask for higher pay from the Church!

 

[slingshot]

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=B0LEt3n_DiY

 

[walnut]

I liked my Compadre better than my Silver due to the ability to work in iron. Definitely the Mojave. IMHO.

Interested in why you say that the Compadre is good in iron? I guess you mean the target separation in iron areas? The Compadre does discriminate iron pretty well but I assumed that the Silver discriminated iron even better.

I like my 6" model and have found a lot with it, but it is pretty chirpy, has 180 ED, and can be a little overwhelming unless you are patient with all the little hits. Kinda assumed the Mojave was the same way.
Well, while using my Silver, it was a choice of a/m- which sounded off on nails, paper clips, etc.- or lowest discrimination- which sometimes was too high for targets near these trash items. I especially remember getting a harsh "clack" sound on a quarter just under the surface with the Silver. Further investigation revealed washer under quarter. With the Compadre set at the "I" or "r" in iron, the quarter would have really sounded off- with NO worries about small nails or paper clips. IOW, 180° discrimination.

What sized coil on the Compadre? I am wondering what differences there might be between the older 7" Compadre and the newer 5.75". I think I have read that the circuitry is actually not exactly the same.

 

[REVIER]

Very interesting that it beats the Vaq! Your posts keep costing me money. May have to ask for higher pay from the Church!

LOL!

Honestly, I am shocked that the Mojave does seem to work better than the Vaq here, I never even suspected that would happen because it does not seem very logical...at all.
In the great dirt out west the Vaq worked perfectly, got deep, the disc worked well and could deal with the normal amount of iron in most sites I hunted and was fun to use although I didn't pull it out all the time.
It found me my oldest coin ever, a beautiful 1865 2 cent coin at a very old home site loaded with trash and a lot of iron, plenty of clad, some other rarer coins and more than my share of silver and gold jewelry even with limited use.

Here in the south is where I lived when I bought it, learned it and used it for hundreds of hours and I was happy.
It seemed to work well but I rarely got very deep with it but then again not many detectors can in my problem dirt so I wasn't concerned.
I have come to understand that most detectors can get a bit deeper than we think but signals on the deeper targets are so screwed up that most never understand or recognize them so they don't get dug and when I say deeper I mean from the 5-9" range.
Getting to 10"+ which was very easy to do out west is still pretty much a dream here for any and all detectors in most of the dirt here, even the better black stuff.
Supposedly the Nox is built and programmed to do better in dirt like mine and I have two friends I hunt with that both want one bad to see if it can work better and get deeper or I'd targets deeper than what we already use but there is no way to really tell if that is true until somebody gets one and tries it.

When I returned back here to live and hunt I remembered how it was, compared it to what I could do out west and even though I had even more knowledge and experience using the Vaq I still felt hampered...the dirt still hugely limited my depth and the tons of extra iron I have to deal with here in the city was a problem, a bigger problem for me now than it used to be because I refuse to spend energy digging as much junk as I used to do back then.
When I lived here before I hunted mostly in the suburbs with a bit less iron, here in the older parts of the city the iron can be insane and much more than just a big problem but this is also where the oldest, best targets seem to be.
I learned to deal with it all pretty efficiently using the F70 but when I used the Vaq I was digging too much iron and I quit being a dig it all hunter a few years ago so now it was not as much fun using the Vaq here as it used to be and it became frustrating for me.
So I figured if I am not into using the Vaq as much as I used to why not take a shot and trade it in on a new Mojave when the opportunity presented itself.

I had no idea how it would work here at all, I still had the Compadre and still enjoyed using it and I could deal with the iron here pretty well using it but I hoped the Mojave would be just as sensitive as the Compadre but give me a bit more depth over that one and that was all I hoped for.
After I got the Mojave I found I got that extra depth...and more.
It still likes iron a bit too much but not as much as the Vaq and I get fooled less.
From what I have seen my Mojave can zero in on good targets huddled together in the dirt with close iron not just as well as my Compadre but better and that was surprising.
Most of all I would have been happy to get just one more inch depth than I could hit with the Compadre but I was shocked to acquire and dig some great non ferrous targets at not just 1 but 2 and even 3" deeper than I could get to with my Compadre and that might not even be my limit.
These are at levels past where I dug anything good around here, ever, than I did using my Vaq.
Again it isn't logical to think I actually could get deeper into the ground than the Vaq could with its great power and more controllable ground balancing but for some reason the good targets I get signals on around here just seem to make more sense to me when I hit them using the Mojave then they did with the Vaq...or I am digging more good targets deeper with the Mojave than I ever did with the Compadre or Vaq, anyway.
Don't ask me why this is true because I don't know, what I do know is I just have more fun using it here than I did with the Vaq and it is working just as well as the Compadre does, maybe even better and definitely deeper so for me trading my Vaq away to get the Mojave was a great move.

If I still lived and hunted in better soil I would not have ever considered doing a trade like this but my life is what it is so you adapt and try new things to try to make it better if you can.
This was a gamble but for me it worked out just fine, this time.

To the OP I never tried using a Silver here but I can't believe it would work better than the Mojave, my guess is probably not as well.
That is in my very strange and challenging dirt, in yours your mileage may vary.