Nancy Request - Final Pictures...

[EasySwing]

Here are the last pics of my best 2013-2014 finds....

Marty - God is Cool!

 

[PSS1963]

Clearly this is some kind of cache - nobody carries silver bullion ingots around with them. Also, didn't you say this was recovered from the ocean? Sea water turns silver black - it couldn't have been there very long . . . very , very strange!

- pete

 

[EasySwing]

Clearly this is some kind of cache - nobody carries silver bullion ingots around with them. Also, didn't you say this was recovered from the ocean? Sea water turns silver black - it couldn't have been there very long . . . very , very strange!

- pete

Totally agree, I pulled them out of the wet sand/ shallow water. Bizarre to say the least, but nevertheless true. I suspect they were thrown in as a memorial to a deceased husband or wife. I cannot explain it but the 2 days was unreal, sand shifted on the third and not a beep. Never had something like this happen to be, so I thought I would post something out of the ordinary for fun. My wife shot live video of the recoveries. I would not believe it myself unless it happened to me. A month later I pulled out this in the same area about 1 foot down on Mother's Day. Only found one but I know there is more treasure there.

 

[Nancy-IL]

Beautiful ring! Oh my goodness, you can see the high quality of the diamonds from looking at the picture. I bet that looks really nice on your wife's finger too!

Love all the silver too. Yes, I would imagine that someone was throwing the bars as memories in the past.

Thanks for posting it!

 

[EasySwing]

Beautiful ring! Oh my goodness, you can see the high quality of the diamonds from looking at the picture. I bet that looks really nice on your wife's finger too!

Love all the silver too. Yes, I would imagine that someone was throwing the bars as memories in the past.

Thanks for posting it!

Nancy

Nancy Did you see the pic s
of the watch?
Marty

 

[Nancy-IL]

Just did. WOW!!!!

 

[PSS1963]

Or maybe a disgruntled ex did it for spite?

 

[OregonGregg]

Very nice finds. Would be fun to know the story of how the Silver got there.

 

[mudpuppy]

This is sooo Strange!

It would indeed be good to know the backstory about this remarkable haul! unreal! I'd a been looking over my shoulder to see who was playing a trick on me! Nobody carries that much big silver to the beach, so it had to be an intentional toss of some sort... Other than Judas, who would intentionally toss all that silver? Even if it was stolen it doesnt make any sense...I cannot fathom any logical reason other than perhaps a person was really in a traumatic state of mind and threw them in as an offering for some reason?

That must have been a very surreal experience for you...Recently I got into a public place that was just full of clad Q's...grabbed over 200 of them in a short time, and thought maybe I had died and this was what Heaven is like for a clad grabber?

I am glad you let Nancy talk you into posting some of your great finds for the year, Easyswing! Amazing, very nice work!
Mud

 

[PSS1963]

Hey EasySwing,

What are all the things commemorated on the pieces? The ingots at least seem to have events remembered on them - we have "Mother's Day 1988", one that looks like it might say "25th Anniversary" and one with a big heart on it - is that "Valentines Day"? If I was to guess, this appears to be a collection of gifts given to a woman over a long span of time. As Mud suggested, there appears to have been a trauma associated with this event - either a death or the end of a long marriage - either one could create the motive to dispose of the collection. In my experience, though, when there's a death people hold on to things as a remembrance of the person lost or if they can't bear to look at them, they could sell them off or pass them to a family member. Throwing something valuable into the ocean like that (not somebody's ashes) is likely an act of anger. It could be directed at either the giver of the gifts if the wronged party felt they meant nothing or at the recipient if the giver felt they weren't appreciated.

An individual piece may not tell us much but maybe we can see a pattern in the collection as a whole.

- pete

 

[mudpuppy]

I know right Pete? Good thinking about the commemorative aspect of the bars you brought up...Valentines day, Mothers day, etc... a puzzler!

I went outside shoveled the driveway and thought about this...most people in trauma or disgust in a relationship generally throw a wedding ring into the water, flush it down the toilet, something like that......that happens all the time...

This strange trove appears to be different, so I got to thinking...a few years back I told my Wife, if I die, take my silver coins I found out of my 'treasure box' and scatter them out in the local parks and totlots and beaches here where I hunt for somebody else to find someday...they arnt worth a whole lot, no key dates, just some mercs and rosies, a few barbers and all, for one of my compatriots in this Sport to get a kick out of finding in the future...She would most likely honor that wish, (especially since I'm instructed to take Her ashes and build a massive concrete dolphin sculpture with them mixed in and implant it 50' down off a reef in Bonaire!) but I also suspect in her grief, (rolling her eyes and shaking her head) she might just dump them at one easy location in a big pile, scuff the dirt off her feet, and call it a day!

A real mystery this silver EasySwing found!...For a person to take them all the way out to the beach in anger seems a bit much, but people do some weird things when they are mad for sure... ...especially when they could just as easily thrown them into a dumpster, or a Salvation Army kettle, or hell, even down the storm sewer grate, or dumped right out on the sidewalk with his clothes and stuff....I hope to believe it was a form of tribute, or else some kid stole Grandpa's silver collection, got scared, and dumped them on the beach while down there smoking a fattie....those danged kids will do this kind of strange thing too!.
Mud

One things for sure, a full grown Man has too much respect for Noble metals to dump such a hoard on purpose! Even at the request of a spouse! (No offense Nancy, I KNOW you have respect for noble metals!...I bet if Larry told you to 'dump all his silver' in a tribute upon his death, you would take that to mean to put it up for sale here on the 'General Merchandise' Forum!)

 

[OregonGregg]

Hey Mudpuppy,

Had kinda the same experience in Nevada. Was hunting around some old buildings in a town and came across a bunch of clad. 80-90 quarters a mess of dimes and nickels and all within a 3 square ft area. The guy that gave me permission happen to come back by and i told him about the pile of clad I found. He started to laugh and said that solves that mystery. A guy robbed an old store and grabbed several big bags of change and made a run. The cops did catch him and got the money back, at least most of it. The robber stated that one of the bags sprang a leak and some of the coins pored out. I found it right at the corner of this building. LOL so he must have been peeking around the corner while the change was pouring out.

 

[EasySwing]

Hey EasySwing,

What are all the things commemorated on the pieces? The ingots at least seem to have events remembered on them - we have "Mother's Day 1988", one that looks like it might say "25th Anniversary" and one with a big heart on it - is that "Valentines Day"? If I was to guess, this appears to be a collection of gifts given to a woman over a long span of time. As Mud suggested, there appears to have been a trauma associated with this event - either a death or the end of a long marriage - either one could create the motive to dispose of the collection. In my experience, though, when there's a death people hold on to things as a remembrance of the person lost or if they can't bear to look at them, they could sell them off or pass them to a family member. Throwing something valuable into the ocean like that (not some body's ashes) is likely an act of anger. It could be directed at either the giver of the gifts if the wronged party felt they meant nothing or at the recipient if the giver felt they weren't appreciated.

An individual piece may not tell us much but maybe we can see a pattern in the collection as a whole.

- pete

The hunt was a highlight of my detecting outings to say the least. Many days my detecting buddies and I have pondered the scenario surrounding the event. The facts of the spill is that the hunted area was about 75 feet by 100 feet square in surface area. I found all the old coins on one day of hunting in one area scattered around but grouped on say the right side of the hunted area. The next day I found only the brand new or relatively new bars of silver, rounds, and silver and half dollars on the left side of the area. On the first day because of the dates of the coins at first I thought a ship wreck, but then Franklin halves were inter-dispersed with the old Morgans. I was shaking with disbelief literally, and could hardly contain myself! All thought of grabbing a burger fled from me. I was in grid mode at that point, I wish I could send you all a video of one coin. The next day all the action was on the left side of the grid. Brand new Silver dollars, and rounds were coming up. Older silver bars commemorating 911, mother's day, valentine's day were appearing. Toward the end of the day finds were getting deeper and deeper and the tide was coming in. The next day I could not get a peep from my detector as the bars were "running silent, running deep".

My thoughts.....

Due to the diversity of coin/bars recovered they were part of a collection over a span of at least 25+ years of marriage. The objects perhaps were from a husband's collection of silver commemorating special events in their life together. He did not collect for the sake of investment only, but enjoyed giving to his wife on special occasions. Perhaps she died and he honored his marriage by scattering the cache to the sea where they spent many good times together. It may have been a deeply moving experience to release her in his heart. Closure as it is. I choose to believe this is the story behind the coin spill. I tried to find any news concerning a silver theft both locally or via a Internet search for many days. This was a private matter, un-posted, for his memory only of the love of his life. Finally Mothers day six months later I was in a depression of sand near the spill and heard a very faint sound though the head phones of my Sea Hunter PI. Up comes 1 silver bar dated Mother's Day 1988. What is the odds of finding a silver bar stamped with the words "Mothers Day 1988" on Mothers Day? I choose to believe the entire event was a God thing. Maybe some day we will know....
Marty

 

[Nancy-IL]

One things for sure, a full grown Man has too much respect for Noble metals to dump such a hoard on purpose! Even at the request of a spouse! (No offense Nancy, I KNOW you have respect for noble metals!...I bet if Larry told you to 'dump all his silver' in a tribute upon his death, you would take that to mean to put it up for sale here on the 'General Merchandise' Forum!)[/quote

[size=large]You've got that right![/size]

 

[PSS1963]

...She would most likely honor that wish, (especially since I'm instructed to take Her ashes and build a massive concrete dolphin sculpture with them mixed in and implant it 50' down off a reef in Bonaire!)

Can I infer from this, Mud, that you and your S.O. are divers too? I have only done New England dives where the temp ranges from 40-60F, but I know Bonaire is a divers' Mecca famous for it's many wonderful shore dives - "Thousand Steps" and many others. My GF and I have a plan for our ultimate demise and it's remarkably similar to your lady's request - though she is water-phobic and won't go in past her chest, leave alone scuba. Our idea was to have our ashes mixed with cement and cast into a pair of garden gnomes. Our kids will always have to keep a garden so there is a place for us - sounds silly when I say it out loud, but somehow warm and fuzzy too.

(Sorry, Nancy, for going so far off-topic but I couldn't just let that pass.)

-pete

 

[Nancy-IL]

Don't worry Pete, I'm enjoying reading the posts. HH, Nancy

 

[hank1]

WOW!!! I had no idea you did this well hunting, but I'm sure glad to see it! My thanks also for posting the photos. It helps to re-energize me after a few lame hunts. Hope this winter passes quickly for you and all of us.

 

[TerrificPacific]

I told my girlfriend about this cool find and she had a theory.
Perhaps it was a childless marriage and the wife passed away and with no one to really pass things on too......
Or, she said.....
They both (or one) had children before they married, so this was a way to keep the peace - no one gets her stuff!....!!

 

[EasySwing]

The theory is as good as any. Since they didn't get it I'm glad I did. I could always use the inheritance to supplement my upcoming retirement.