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[sube]

https://youtu.be/bkSWa2FNQU4 Couple correction from the video I said 16 fo fe line in high trash it's at 20 also on the first dime nail combo I said high trash was falsing it's not there's a high and low in there.

I have all my modes set the same except pattern 2 in ferrous coin combine is open my user key for high trash combine pattern 2 the fe line is set to 20.

Sill can check targets in high trash combine pattern 1

The fe line got me testing again tried ferrous coin combine with fe line at 13 did not matter still high toned on falses.

Now this fe line of 20 can be added to low trash high trash and ground coin to check falsing in ferrous coin all work the same. all modes are combine

One other thing with the block in the corner I think the half being throw en up on the 12 line is why it did not show and the low conductors were a grunt that's why they didn't show another words they went to the 35 line ?

The 2 nail thing also works with one nail sube

 

[JJ]

Sube, I'm trying pretty hard to ingest all of the above. I gave it a run today in an iron riddled patch. I definitely can now relate to what Bryan was saying about that feeling you were missing things, and dropping the Fe line really seemed to make the machine recover and respond so much quicker. Of course there was much more falsing in Ferrous Coin and I was GLUED to the target trace for the first time ever. I need to watch your video a few more times to really get a good idea when to dig. One question: Above you mentioned that all modes were in combined where in the video I belive your high trash mode is in 4 tone conductive. I'm not nitpicking, just trying to set this up exactly to replicate your results. Thanks again Sube, JJ

 

[JJ]

Also, I think I dropped my Fe line in my high trash mode to the floor also. Is that better around 16 or 20 to weed out falsing or is that ok on the bottom? Thanks, JJ

 

[JJ]

Sorry for all the questions. Your second paragraph above:

"I have all my modes set the same except pattern 2 in ferrous coin combine is open my user key for high trash combine pattern 2 the fe line is set to 20."

How exactly are you changing and saving the fe line for each individual pattern within the same mode? When i try to change this through tone id profile in the exchange software, it makes changes to both patterns equally. I can change disc areas all day long in each pattern, but not sure how to make and save changes of different bin sizes for 2 two different patterns within the same mode. I'm probably misunderstanding your point of that paragraph. Thanks, JJ

 

[Digger]

Sorry for all the questions. Your second paragraph above:

"I have all my modes set the same except pattern 2 in ferrous coin combine is open my user key for high trash combine pattern 2 the fe line is set to 20."

How exactly are you changing and saving the fe line for each individual pattern within the same mode? When i try to change this through tone id profile in the exchange software, it makes changes to both patterns equally. I can change disc areas all day long in each pattern, but not sure how to make and save changes of different bin sizes for 2 two different patterns within the same mode. I'm probably misunderstanding your point of that paragraph. Thanks, JJ

I think what sube is saying is that he uses the soft programmable pad (user key) to switch back and forth between two separate programs. He is explaining that the only difference in those two programs, other than the Fe/Coin or High Trash Separation Mode, is where he has set the Ferrous line. JMO HH Randy

 

[JJ]

Thanks Randy, that's what I was hoping and also the way I set them up. Built a few custom Sube programs today, might be fun to try something new in iron. When are we getting together for a hunt? You're a stones throw down I-29 from me, hope you and Bill are doing well. JJ

 

[sube]

Also, I think I dropped my Fe line in my high trash mode to the floor also. Is that better around 16 or 20 to weed out falsing or is that ok on the bottom? Thanks, JJ

I you drop it to the floor it's no different than being in ferrous coin at 34 . You have 2 ferrous coin patterns available to you mine are open and one disc for nails .

Now the user button can be set to any separation pattern you want ground coin low trash or high trash you also have 2 patterns available to you let's say you pick ground coin you could set the fe line at 20 or 14 or anywhere between but remember if the id of the coin is lower than where the coin ids at it well be a low tone .Now your second pattern could be set to open screen with the nails disc out to check targets in a different separation mode compared to ferrous coin .

The whole idea is to get rid of the false and fake id from ferrous coin combine .

You also need to be in combine so you can set your fe line all the other tone profiles don't have the fe line. sube

 

[mcb613]

Sube, no disrespect, but Ive been having a hard time following your videos for any definitive process or outcome with iron and coins. Been hearing trave lines that are building towards the 12 line, degraded 12 line numbers, and now blue blocks just above the iron area, lower right corner. With all this variation and the usual field variations of signsls, Im lost!
Also, the north / south and east/west is only viable in controlled testing, as real field conditions and targets that are not controlled, render these tests almost useless, other than proving the fact that there is no science or pattern to detecting keepers in iron infested areas.
Are there any definitives you found that are reliable and in what modes?
Seams like with processing power these days and high tech capability, detector mfgs would be able to build a machine that can accurately separate and identify good and bad targets.
Wishful thinking maybe!

Thanks and clarify what you can. Appreciate the dedication and hard work though!

 

[sube]

Sube, no disrespect, but Ive been having a hard time following your videos for any definitive process or outcome with iron and coins. Been hearing trave lines that are building towards the 12 line, degraded 12 line numbers, and now blue blocks just above the iron area, lower right corner. With all this variation and the usual field variations of signsls, Im lost!
Also, the north / south and east/west is only viable in controlled testing, as real field conditions and targets that are not controlled, render these tests almost useless, other than proving the fact that there is no science or pattern to detecting keepers in iron infested areas.
Are there any definitives you found that are reliable and in what modes?
Seams like with processing power these days and high tech capability, detector mfgs would be able to build a machine that can accurately separate and identify good and bad targets.
Wishful thinking maybe!

Thanks and clarify what you can. Appreciate the dedication and hard work though!

I only am showing what the detector is doing ,yes in certain situations

Iron comes in all sizes and shapes iron can id as 32.44 to 35.50 anything with a id of 32.48 32.49 32.50 to 35.48 35.49 35.50 is iron , the number that proves it's iron is the second number the co# 48 for nails small iron 49 big nails and pieces 50 is for big iron 10 inch bolts as a example.

How can you have a coin with this much variation in iron size and shape to act the same way . Just remember as the iron gets larger the coin well be driven to the iron numbers 48 49 50 anytime the co #s are smaller you at least have a chance of getting a coin with iron .

Then you have nails that id with different #s same size but made out of different metals or are leached away those giving different ids for the same size nail now throw in different dirt the list goes on.

The more you know how the detector reacts to iron in different situations the better your chances of getting a coin with nails .

This is why there is not a detector that can id a coin with iron 100 percent of the time. sube