myth of the 90 degree turn to dig or not to dig??????

[calabash digger]

It has been told on the forums that if you get a signal and turn 90 degrees on it and it turns to iron or junk you should leave it as it would be junk. Is this true ???? Well heres a video to deal with another metal detecting myth handed to us by some.. [video]https://youtu.be/lUGa4uVj3ho[/video]

 

[D&P-OR]

Well of course!----and ALL THE MORE reason why you should cover/detect areas in at least two different directions----detector 101 stuff.------Did you just figure this out & how long have you been detecting calabash?

 

[mike from Illinois]

That's the reason I have always done a 360 when I hit a target.

 

[Architex]

Hey, the guy is just trying to help. He has put up some very good videos. Not everyone has your superior intellect (or your attitude).

 

[D&P-OR]

Oh get off of it with the attitude b.s.-----All I'm saying is an area should be covered from a couple of different directions.----Is that SO HARD for you to understand???

Hey, the guy is just trying to help. He has put up some very good videos. Not everyone has your superior intellect (or your attitude).

 

[calabash digger]

That's not the way it came off but heres the answer to your question, no I made the video for some people who don't know any better and was being discussed on another forum the other day and I told the people on there hey wait a minute it has a flaw. So yeah its 101 detector stuff but you would be surprised that how many don't have that down. I find it amazing that how many people equate how long some ones been detecting with how much knowledge they have of a detector or detecting. I know a dealer whos been detecting for years and doesn't have a clue and uses the 90 degree turn method to decide to dig or not dig . Can a person whos been detecting for 6 months know more than some whos been detecting for 10 years in some cases the answer is yes. What makes a better detectorist finds? I have 56 civil war and before military buttons finds, 7 1700s coin finds including a Spanish cob, 12 civil war and before coins trimes, half dime ,large cent, etc. and other silvers from later but I specialize in relics from civil war and before not interested in any thing later. I have probably close 200 flat buttons , and hundreds of other period relics.. How long has it taken me to find these? 6 months, 2 years ,10 years?? I can research with the best, over lay , topo maps , gps and all the other trade secrets how long does it take one to accomplish these things?? My mentor has been doing this 30 years and he will quickly tell you I know more about our detectors and detecting tech than he does , and he has spectacular finds including the only known numbered continental dragoon button KNOWN to exist and you can find that in don trovonis button book if you would like to see it. I own my own business so in the off season we hunt 3 or 4 times a week from nov to march. So what makes a better one a more knowledgable detectorist. TIME? FINDS? MULTIPLE DETECTORS?? If your new to the hobbie don't be intimidated by how long someones been detecting some have been doing it for 20 years and don't have a clue and some of the old timers can give you very valuable knowledge but don't assume some one is a expert by how long they been doing it. On the other hand you guys who been detecting for 40 years don't assume someone whos been doing it for only a short time doesn't know whats up either, some people are quick studies! You can take a guess at how long ive been detecting 10 years , 5 years, 3months? TIME doesn't make a good detectorist practice and studying do.

 

[still looking 52]

On your deeper targets( referring to coins) I usually don't get any signal when I turn 90 degrees. I've learned that the deep coins (6" to 9") usually have a small window you can hit, say around 20 to 30 degrees and that's the reason you can find these coins in hard hit areas by slowing down and going in a off pattern from the normal hunting pattern.
Earlier this year, about a month ago I found this 1902 barber 1/2 dollar down between 8" and 9" in an area that has been hunted hard, it was in a public park where everybody goes when they get there 1st detector. It would only give me a faint signal from a small window but that's how I got.

 

[JimmyCT]

Wow I have learned many great hunting ideas on this forum and others. This very subject you speak about here....I never ran across on any forums. In fact I learned just the opposite of what you speak of. These are THE targets to dig. There are several hunters on findmall and elsewhere that I am grateful for as they provided tips and tricks to help me increase my finds. One hunter that really sticks out is RickND on the Sovereign forum. If you are reading this Rick, thank you for all of your help. - Jim

It has been told on the forums that if you get a signal and turn 90 degrees on it and it turns to iron or junk you should leave it as it would be junk. Is this true ???? Well heres a video to deal with another metal detecting myth handed to us by some.. [video]https://youtu.be/lUGa4uVj3ho[/video]

 

[calabash digger]

Thanks for sharing that backs up my findings in my test garden.

 

[JimmyCT]

No pun intended but you are right on the money with your statement. This is exactly my finding too = slow down and work at odd angles / patterns.

On your deeper targets( referring to coins) I usually don't get any signal when I turn 90 degrees. I've learned that the deep coins (6" to 9") usually have a small window you can hit, say around 20 to 30 degrees and that's the reason you can find these coins in hard hit areas by slowing down and going in a off pattern from the normal hunting pattern.
Earlier this year, about a month ago I found this 1902 barber 1/2 dollar down between 8" and 9" in an area that has been hunted hard, it was in a public park where everybody goes when they get there 1st detector. It would only give me a faint signal from a small window but that's how I got.

 

[doc holiday232]

Thanks,Calabash--I enjoy and Learn from all your videos.

 

[calabash digger]

Was just talking about it on the other forum under the garrett section where a guy was asking questions in a thread. I pointed out the flaws to it.

 

[calabash digger]

I just did a quick search where a guy was using that technique so some still doing that the guys on the forum helped him out.

 

[Architex]

No that wasn't all you were saying. Guess you didn't realize that. You're really an emotional guy aren't you.

 

[dougmanning]

Nice job ! thanks again for the great video, your friend Doug

 

[calabash digger]

Hows it going my friend? You guys can come down when it cools off and ill take you guys to some 1890s to 1932 era homesites and see if we can squeak out a sliver or two. You looking at new detectors?

 

[hawgdawg]

Oh get off of it with the attitude b.s.-----All I'm saying is an area should be covered from a couple of different directions.----Is that SO HARD for you to understand???

Hey, the guy is just trying to help. He has put up some very good videos. Not everyone has your superior intellect (or your attitude).

Wow. Who's the one with the attitude ? The man is just passing on some knowledge to some of us less experienced diggers. I for one appreciate any help I can get for my limited times that I do get to hunt. I've watched some of his videos , and enjoyed seeing his finds and his methods. So thank you Calabash Digger for your informative videos and post.
To D&P, we're still waiting for your positive and helpful information on the hobby. And be careful for the nose bleeds you can get up there on that high horse you're sitting on.

 

[chuck ky]

My situation is a little different than what you're talking about. When I used the Minelab Sovereign I would cherry pick with full discrimination. If I got a signal I switched to the all-metal pinpoint and if it pinpointed in the same location it was always a coin. After digging several that the pinpoint moved they all turned out to be nails.

 

[D&P-OR]

Rough crowd here!----"Still waiting" huh?-----Well, having started in this great hobby 42 years ago I'd like to think that I already have contributed a few things along the line.---Obviously, this wasn't one of my better attempts at "contributing" (thus far).-----I have no superior knowledge/intellect, I'm just an old man (78 yrs. old) that's come up through the school of "hard knocks" in this great hobby (much of it before internet days).-----One of the neat things about this hobby is the fact that it's a never ending learning procedure (if you're really into it).----I learn new things about it and the equipment used all the time (in my actual hunts AND in my testing equip.)-----We can/should learn through the forums also---I know I learn & pick up some "gems" that way on occasion, we can learn from each other.------Admittedly, I don't get out on hunts anymore as much as I used to--but--my wife & I both still detect & are blessed to be able to hunt pretty much year around.-----Over the years we have detected every state in the U.S with the exception of the very upper north east U.S--someone said "that's where all the good targets (coins) are"--I dunno.---but guess what---we learned something in every one of these areas hunted.----Sometimes I think the more I learn I realize the less I know (with more questions than answers).--------Anyway---Calabash does turn out some good vids---and this post/thread has made a few very good responses (IMO).---------Getting back to target response (90 degree).------There are MANY things that affect that--not the least of canted targets, nearby trash, depth, ground condition/mineralized even moisture content in soil, etc.---MANY variables.-----Those that (always) insist on text book hits both ways--and a pre-conceived audio tone are surely leaving targets in the ground---I agree with you on that calabash.----As stated, too many variables--especially now-a-days & in hard hit sites---(most) of the easy/text book response targets are long gone.-----For best results---hunt your hard hit sites as many times as you can--AND--in as many directions as you have time for---also, if you hunt in moist ground (but not soaked)---maybe after a nice/saturating rain--to where the moisture has penetrated the ground nicely---you can/will be pleasantly surprised at your hunt results.--------Enough "ramblings" of an old man.-----------Del

Oh get off of it with the attitude b.s.-----All I'm saying is an area should be covered from a couple of different directions.----Is that SO HARD for you to understand???

Hey, the guy is just trying to help. He has put up some very good videos. Not everyone has your superior intellect (or your attitude).

Wow. Who's the one with the attitude ? The man is just passing on some knowledge to some of us less experienced diggers. I for one appreciate any help I can get for my limited times that I do get to hunt. I've watched some of his videos , and enjoyed seeing his finds and his methods. So thank you Calabash Digger for your informative videos and post.
To D&P, we're still waiting for your positive and helpful information on the hobby. And be careful for the nose bleeds you can get up there on that high horse you're sitting on.

 

[calabash digger]

good write up del and sound advice. This is one of the things I like about my deus I can hunt it in many directions in 7 kh and then flip the switch and come back over it in 17 kh like running two different detectors across it.