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My thoughts after first hunt.

Fire Fighter 43

Active member
I would first like to comment on the physical side of the CTX. The construction of the CTX is as good as it gets. Minelab defiantly put a lot of thought into the design and materials. I have been using Doc's Swingy Thingy for several years now and honestly thought I would be using it for the rest of my detecting days. Early reports about the balance and feel of the CTX were that even though it weighed 5#'s it did not feel that heavy when swinging it. I had decided that I would try my first few hunts without the aid of the Swingy Thingy so I could make my own judgement on the weight issue. I honestly thought I would need to install it on the CTX so I had contacted Doc a week before I received the CTX to see what I needed to make it fit the larger shaft. Well after my first 5 hour hunt I can say I'm not going to install the swingy thingy. When you pick- up the CTX you can tell you have 5#'s in your hand but once you get it in the swinging position it feels great. The balance is perfect and I felt no fatigue in my shoulder or arm. With the Etrac I always felt like I was fighting the weight, that is not the case with the CTX. The rest of the detector is very well made. One thing I thought was kind of cheap was the clip holder for the wireless module, but after using it I do not see it being a problem. I also had some glare issues with the screen so I adjusted the back light and it was better. The day was cloudy so I'll have to see how it is in the sunlight.

Now to the performance. My thoughts on depth are that it is as deep as the Etrac but not any better. I ran both the CTX and the Etrac in my 5 year old test garden with the standard coin program and standard coils. I have little EMI in my yard and I was able to max both detectors at 30 in Manual sensitivity. I could not tell a difference in depth. I then used the set-up I normally hunt with on the Etrac and set the CTX as close to the Etrac as I could and I still did not see any difference in depth.

I have an electronic dog fence and once I turn it on the EMI increases in my yard. I turned the fence on for the next test which was for stability around EMI. I set both detectors on auto sensitivity and used noise cancel. The CTX was running 2-3 notches higher than the Etrac. Not scientific by no means but I would say the CTX handles EMI better.

I also tried a couple of recovery test with iron and a silver coin. The CTX preformed much better than the Etrac. I had iron caps and nails in different positions around the coin and on the coin. This was all done on the surface, so you can say it was an air test. The CTX separated the targets much better and it also recovered faster between targets.

Now to my first hunt with the CTX. I used the standard coin program with only these adjustments.
Deep On
Fast Off
Target Trace On
TargetTrace Pinpoint On
Manual Sensitivity On
Response Long
I also adjusted the Threshold to my ears with maxed volume. I was using the wireless module with my ProGold headphones with the volume level controlled with the headphone knobs.

I hunted two different spots the first was an old farmhouse site that was loaded with iron. This was my first time out so I was just trying to to find a decent signal so I could play around with the settings. I managed to find a few clad coins and a token. It was probably not the best spot for my first run but I did learn enough to get me acquainted with its sounds and settings. I then decided to head to my honey hole which is an old picnic grove that has produce many nice finds. I chose a section that I had cover once with the Etrac. I just worked it in a different direction. I started finding clad right away. most of the coins had iron in the whole with them. I tried to figure out the target trace but I still do not quite understand it. I can not comment on the depth in the field since I did not come across any targets deeper than 6 inches. I did manage to find one silver a 1916 Barber dime it was 4 inch below 2 zinc pennies and a clad dime. It first came in as 12-41 at 3 inches and when I pinpointed it was showing a surface target. After removing the clad which was less than an inch I was getting a solid 12-45 at 4 inches.

I could defiantly tell that the recovery speed was much better than the Etrac. As far as target trace is concerned I'm on the fence with this new feature. I do not quite understand it so I guess I should not comment either way until I figure it out. I also feel that the TID on the CTX was much better than the Etrac the numbers did not seem to jump around much once a good target was detected and that was with iron in the same hole as the coin.

The last thing I would like to comment on is the WM-10 wireless module. After using the V3i with wireless for a couple of years it was one thing I missed when I switched to the Etrac. There was absolutely no delay and it worked flawlessly and to be able to use my own Pro Gold headphones made it that much better.
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Overall I was impressed more with the physical part of the detector. I feel once I get used to the sounds and operation of the CTX that I will be just as efficient or better with it than the Etrac. I'm happy I made the choice to change. Even if it doesn't preform any better than the Etrac I have no more wires or Swingy Thingy attached, I feel free, LOL. It is also water proof, better balanced, upgradable and overall better built than the Etrac.
 
Thanks for taking the time to to test the machine and post a review. Being waterproof and better balanced is why I ordered one.
 
Thanks for the thorough analysis. Good job!!
In regard to your comments concerning depth when compared to the E-TRAC......I would agree that there is little (if any) difference in depth, when running "equal" manual Sensitivity on both detectors. However, your next comment on the CTX 3030 being able to run with a bit more Sensitivity (due to interference) is well worth noting.

I set both detectors on auto sensitivity and used noise cancel. The CTX was running 2-3 notches higher than the Etrac.

There are very few places that I can operate the E-TRAC with a manual Sensitivity of 30 and maintain stability. Most of the time around here, it starts getting the chirps at the low to mid 20's. What I've found with the CTX 3030 is that it is able to remain stable for a couple more "clicks", meaning a higher manual setting. And in places with Auto, like you described, I found the CTX to "settle in" with a higher Sensitivity than my E-TRAC, b y 2 or 3 numbers. So with all that in mind, I do believe that I can detect deeper targets with the CTX 3030 than with the E-TRAC. In fact I know I can, as I have in "head to head" comparisons. As I've posted several times, the depth difference between the CTX 3030 and E-TRAC is no more than 10%. But in many locations, if you're able to maintain a higher (and more stable) Sensitivity level with the CTX 3030, even an increase of 5-10% might represent the difference between finding a coin or passing it by. And when you consider the additional functionality, the CTX 3030 really shines. JMHO HH Randy
 
Thanks for the review. It was from a little different angle than most I've read here.

I'm moving from an Explorer xs to the CTX and the sites I've hunted are full of iron and aluminum trash. I'm really looking for better TID so I don't spend all day digging up trash.
 
good report I have mine but have not been able to get out with it yet:happy:
 
So far same setup as I run in Etrac with stock coins program deep off fast off unless really, really trashy and in A+3 Im seeing 21-23 and on the Etrac I usually got 15-17 once in a while got 19 but most all was around 17 so getting 4-5 clicks better sensitivity here.
 
Very nice post and good comparison on both machines the ctx 3030 is a great machine especially in iron and i agree it has a faster recovery speed then the etrac



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Nice summary. I think the effective depth of the CTX goes up over the E-Trac because of the way it handles EMI and because it runs a little hotter (as you said) in auto. I think it handles iron mineralized ground better as well as I'm getting more 9" coins, which my E-Trac could hit on occasion. But, the big difference to me is that the CTX seems much quicker, not a little quicker. This really helps with separation and unmasking as a few areas have really opened up again to me. The two areas that really opened up just have a lot in the ground. The one that somewhat opened up has much fewer targets.

Albert
 
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