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My perspective on the Ace 250

The more you use your ACE 250 the more you will learn that you can pinpoint within a 2 inch circle or even less sometimes. 99% of the time after "dutuning" and getting the spot, I poke a hole and my pinpointer is dead center of the target right where the ACE told me. It's call practice. And the "song and dance" has given me keepers many times where I might have just passed up the hit. Good luck...
 
Maybe I've got a weird 250, but I can pinpoint right in the notch at the center of the coil, deep or shallow. I tried the other method and would miss the target quite a bit, so I just wiggle in with the center notch, probe and pop, no detuning or any little tricks. Then again, I had quite a bit of time in with the 7 x 10 when they first released them for the 1250. It gave me fits for the first couple of hours and then it was business as usual. If you want to get deadly at pinpointing, try using a machine like the Freedom Ace Plus that has no pinpoint button and you have to "x" the target. When you come back to the 250, what a breeze!! I just bought the 9 x 12 and haven't tried it out yet, but I will. As far as coil price goes, the 4" Sniper is a bargain at about $58 compared to $70 to $100 for a comparable Tesoro coil. Good luck and good finds to you!!!
 
Just remember that the PP tone on a round flat target is more narrow left to right than up and down on the stock coil. This means that if you PP in the center of the coil a coin may give you a 3 inch tone left to right. Then going up and down maybe 5 or 6 inches. Just keep the center of each tone in your minds eye and dig at the notch in the coil. I think this is where people have trouble because a concentric coil PP's the same left and right and up and down. I find that the Garrett coils are cheap compared to any other brand. I sold my Minelab Xterra30 when I swung my 250. Also the xterra didn't have a small coil. Now I see after a couple of years the Xterra's small coil is about $150.00 Not to mention the larger coil prices. I think if you'll get the hang of the 250's PPing soon. Good luck to you.
 
Yeah when I first field tested the 250 for Garrett no one told me how to pinpoint with it correctly but it didn't take me long to figure it out. With a little practice it becomes simple. One just has to remember that an oval coil doesn't pinpoint like a round coil.

Bill
 
[quote Uncle Willy]Yeah when I first field tested the 250 for Garrett no one told me how to pinpoint with it correctly but it didn't take me long to figure it out. With a little practice it becomes simple. One just has to remember that an oval coil doesn't pinpoint like a round coil.
Bill[/quote]

I've only used my "hockey puck" a few times so haven't learned it that much but I do know one thing. With use and practice it doesn't matter what coil you use where it pinpoints. You will learn. I've learned that with the stock one, it's in the center about an inch below the inside loop. Some others may be a bit different just for the electronics. Like I said before, I've gotten mine down now to know where the target is and a small hole with a screw driver and my pinpointer I 99% of the time am RIGHT ON!!! Practice practice...
 
The 9x12 is basically the same as the stock coil, just bigger.
It pinpoints the same as the stock coil, just on a slightly larger
scale. As one mentioned, unless there is masking by other targets,
the shape of the pinpointer tone area is the same as the shape
and size of the coil.
So the side to side distance is wider in the middle, than at the
top or bottom. This is one reason checking the side to side
distance to make sure you are in the middle when you pull
back is so important. That will be the reason a target is off
to the right or left. When I pinpoint, and am pulling back the coil
for the tone "cutout", I'm very careful to double check the side
to side distance all the way to the cutout point. At the point the tone
cuts out, the side to side distance will be very narrow, as the
inner coil itself is at the top or bottom.
I'd practice up with the stock coil and get it down fairly well before
trying the large coil.
The large coil works the same, but... Being as it sees more targets
at one time, pinpointing can be tricky at times with it if masking by
other targets comes into play. Naturally, due to the larger size, you
will see this on the large coil more than the stock coil.
But like they say, with practice, you will get better and better at it.
One note... The sensitivity setting does not effect the pinpointer
mode. It does not change as you lower the setting as does the
ID mode. It's full blast all the time, unless detuned.
So detuning is real important in any cases of masking, or otherwise
busy target areas.
I like the 9x12 coil, and have all three for the ace 250. But the 9x12
can be the hardest to pinpoint in busy areas.. Thats why I use it
only in large areas, or areas that are not too cluttered.
If the area is busy with junk, I'll usually save time and get more
goodies per hour if I use one of the smaller coils, even if it means less
ground covered per sweep.
In a really trashy area, the sniper coil rules.. :super:
MK
 
I was a little confused with the pinpointing at first but after a little practice and figuring out the way the stock coil works became no problem afterwards.
I got the 4.5 sniper coil for under 60 bucks. A good coil and the most inexpensive of all the coils I have for all my machines. And the 4.5 sniper pinpoints in the center.
Practice and it gets better.
 
Hi, I am somewhat of a newbie, and I hope you don't hold back on recommending this detector to a newbie because of coil choices. Newbies probably are not thinking about different coils. As a newbie I was concentrating on learning how to use the detector as well as whether I actually liked the hobby. The ease of use, and the accuracy of the target ID is pretty good. Combine that with the price and you have a winner for all but the fussiest. As for the pinpointing, it may not always be directly over the target, but it is usually within an inch. When I compare that with the 2 other detectors I have tried (One was considerably more expensive) it is more than adequate for most people. As I get more in tuned with this hobby, I may also want better coil choices. However, The ease of this machine has allowed me to enjoy my time detecting, which I did not with the higher priced more complicated machine.
Miles in WI
 
That's the problem with a lot of new folks, they buy more machine than they can handle. It's always best to start out with something simple and work your way up. Course in the case of the 250 its performance equals or surpasses that of higher priced machines so one really doesn't need to move up unless they just want to. I have all the high priced detectors but walk out the door 95% of the time with the 250.

Bill
 
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