MXT Pro users

[DirtAngler]

After spending time with your machine, what setup are you finding works best for you regarding mode and audio as well as discrimination and gain. Was out today in relic using iron ID with gain slightly above top notch setting. Went back over area in coin and jewelry, tone ID on, gain at same setting and found some things I missed.

 

[srf2112]

I was wondering, were the items you "missed" in relic/ iron ID higher VDI targets ? (i.e. high tones in C/J) Also which coil(s) were you using . .?

 

[DirtAngler]

Really wasn';t paying much attention to the vdi numbers, more hunting by tone. In relic with iron audio, anything solid that wasn't the low iron tone I dug. In coin and jewelry, again dug signals that weren't iron. Did notice I had a lot more noise in that relic mode that weren't solid repeatable signals. Was using the 10" DD Excalibur round coil.

 

[widebody]

[size=large]i for one prefer to hunt in relic then change to c&j with tones to confirm. also rely on vdi. i don't dig everything but am digging more sounds than i used to. also use the D2. when it comes to low tones i look for 16-19. if it hits those more than once i dig. even if it hits 22. have found buffalo and newer nickels doing that. it must hit 16-18 tho. i run with gain at +2-3. supposedly you get a little more depth in relic but i haven't been at it long enough to say for sure. i can say i really like my D2. been using the 8x6 sef. not impressed. was impressed with my ml version of the 8x6 tho.just haven't found any deep targets with the mxt version. my D2 found me my first and only franklin half at 8". not all that deep for some but my best coin find for now.

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[Monte]

[size=large]i for one prefer to hunt in relic then change to c&j with tones to confirm. also rely on vdi.[/size]

I take a bit different approach and simply select the search mode (program) that best suits my needs or wants for the type of site I am hunting. For me, switching back-and-forth between modes just takes up a lot of time and that cuts into my 'finding' ability.

When I want to hear all targets in an area infested with a lot of small iron, mainly nails, then I opt for the Relic program. That way I can hear the low-audio alert ot iron targets and slowly work the search coil around that junk to see if there's possibly a non-ferrous object near by. When hunting these types of sites, which are usually places like renovation work or some relic-based sites like homesteads, pioneer or military encampments, etc., I use the Relic program with the Disc. level set at minimum and have the iron audio ID turned on.

For most other detecting chores I prefer to use the Coin & Jewelry program and I find the standard single-tone audio response rather pleasing and efficient. I will only occasionally use the 7-Tone audio Tone ID function, and that's when I am mainly searching for coins in typical high-coin sites like some playgrounds, etc. I'm usually not a Tone ID fan. I like it on some models, and prefer it on my XLT for most casual coin hunting in lower-to maybe moderate trash locations.

[size=large]i don't dig everything but am digging more sounds than i used to. also use the D2.[/size]

The D2 10" DD coil, and I have owned several of the (4) since they were released, just didn't suit me well. I had one just before I got my first Vision and used it on my MXT and M6, but most Double-D designs, typically, don't discriminate as well as a concentric coil, and most of the sites I hunt are too trashy to get real benefit from a larger-size coil.

Instead, 95%-98% of all my hunting is with a smaller-than-stock coil, and on the M6's and MXT's I've owned, the White's 5.3 Eclipse coil (6

 

[Monte]

After spending time with your machine, what setup are you finding works best for you regarding mode and audio as well as discrimination and gain.

I usually set the Gain at +3 unless I absolutely have to reduce it due to EMI.

I seldom run my Discrimination level higher than the first factory preset because I like to hear most targets at a site. Even the low-tone Iron audio helps me to be alert to potential good-target masking and I can work my coil around the iron junk and listen for a possible non-ferrous target nearby.

In mainly iron-littered locations I might opt for the Relic mode and use the iron Audio ID, but most often I simply search in the Coin & Jewelry mode, and only occasionally use the 7-Tone audio ID.

I also prefer to keep a very slight audio Threshold hum with the MXT, but from time-to-time I reduce it to a point just slightly below the Threshold to mimic the settings of the M6 when there is a lot of ground variance or ample tiny trash targets.

Was out today in relic using iron ID with gain slightly above top notch setting. Went back over area in coin and jewelry, tone ID on, gain at same setting and found some things I missed.

You could have re-hunted the same area using the very same settings you started with and still located those additional targets. you have to have a lot of patience and work a search coil very methodically with a lot of overlapping to not miss targets. We all do it when we hunt places we have search in the past, even immediately before.

Missing targets is just part of the game we play with ourselves that can help us learn how to be more efficient.

All the best of success as you get out with the MXT Pro.

Monte

 

[srf2112]

Monte, you mentioned that you sometimes used the Relic program/Iron I.D. on AND the discrimination set at minimum. My understanding is that, in that setup the machine "bypasses" any discrimination and signals all targets already . . an iron grunt on all ferrous targets (VDI below 0) and a single tone for everything non-ferrous (VDI above zero) so no need to manually "set" any discrimination level. Am I correct. .? Thank you for your time.

 

[Monte]

The excellent MXT Pro does provide that instantaneous function by using the touch-pad to select the iron ID 'on' feature, but .... For all the years since the MXT was first released and I got one, and have had five others since then, I have the habit of selecting a '0' or minimum Disc level because I would simply toggle to the forward trigger-toggle position to activate that function. So, while we are discussing the MXT pro, there will be other MXT readers who lack that 'pro' feature and they might benefit.

Also, I have that setting so that should I toggle into the C&J discriminate mode, and then select the 7-Tone audio ID, I will still hear the low bass-like audio tone because I have the Disc. level set at minimum.

The only time I do NOT use a minimum setting is when the iron nail infestation is too severe and I start to get a headache from all the grunty noise. Light-to-moderate amounts of nails are where I like to hunt and use that function.

Monte

 

[srf2112]

Understood, good reasoning Monte . .

 

[Whitetail]

Monte, You wrote:
The excellent MXT Pro does provide that instantaneous function by using the touch-pad to select the iron ID 'on' feature, but .... For all the years since the MXT was first released and I got one, and have had five others since then, I have the habit of selecting a '0' or minimum Disc level because I would simply toggle to the forward trigger-toggle position to activate that function.

As discussed I'm new to the MXT Pro. I've read the Users Guide and have located some information on pg 22 concerning what you wrote. Can you further explain what you mean? I have truely only operated my MXT in the C&J mode so the Relic Mode I'm somewhat unfamiliar with. The trigger modes I understand with the exception of the forward position? Am I understading this correctly? In C&J mode the fwd position basically does nothing more than the backwards position......It PINPOINTS(so no real benefit). In Relic mode, the fwd position it again....does the same thing....it PINPOINTS. So can you explain what you mean by:

"I have the habit of selecting a '0' or minimum Disc level because I would simply toggle to the forward trigger-toggle position to activate that function. "

As I see it all you are doing is setting a 0 disc level and then PINPOINTING?

Again, sorry for my question, but I usually only operate in C&J mode....so Relic is somewhat unfamiliar to me. Thx.

 

[Hunt4Fun]

Hi Whitetail,

On an MXT Pro, pushing the Trigger forward does lock the detector in PINPOINTING.

On an MXT, pushing the Trigger forward puts the detector into an Alternate Search Mode. The only way to put an MXT into PINPOINTING is to squeeze and hold the Trigger. If you want to see how the controls work on an MXT, I suggest you download an MXT Manual from the White

 

[Whitetail]

I believe Monte is talking about the MXT Pro and not the MXT. That unit is the unit I have and was inquiring about. I'm just not understanding what he wrote. Thanks for trying to help.