larryk56 said:
The more I look at the MX5 the more I think its an outstanding detector.
Keep looking because it is. There is no such thing [size=small](my opinion)[/size] as a 'perfect' detector, so I make sure my personal detector arsenal is comprised on those models which I feel excel in function and performance. I could be satisfied with just my MXT All-Pro and the coils I have for it, but I have complimented it with a few that I feel add a little something 'special' or 'different.'
The two main-carry detectors that ride along on the back seat are my modified IDX Pro and the new MX5. At home, but along for the rind on come occasion, is my VX3. For
me, the MX5 took the place of two or three other detectors I had and used.
The MX5 was based on the MXT circuitry, and while it doesn't work quite the same as the M6 or MXT 'series,' it comes very close. In addition to being very M6/MXT-like in field performance, it also provides me [size=small](and any savvy consumer)[/size] ample features to have a little flexibility for an assortment of needs based upon the type of site I/we are hunting.
larryk56 said:
But there is one thought that still lurks in the back of my mind.
When I compare the MX5 to the ATPro, the PRO has the iron
audio feature which helps to hear the junk / trash./ iron.
It helps to hear
some junk, if it is IRON/FERROUS type trash, because it has
some ability to audibly classify Iron Vs Non-Iron using the Iron Audio. The MXT/MXT Pro & MXT All-Pro, as well as the new MX5, also offer Iron ID audio capability. The caution here is that the detectorist must remember that not all iron target produce only a lower audio tone, nor do they all produce a rock-solid 'Iron' VDI number or TID display.
Sometimes, a target's shape, and or size or position, can have a surprising effect on how the object responds. I have several 'iron' targets, all rusty and identifiable, in my sample bag I use when I give a seminar or demonstration that provide a very clear, clean, and higher-pitch [size=small](tone)[/size] audio ID, and the visual response is perhaps a little unstable, but mainly higher-reading with a direct-sweep of the targets,
sometimes.
The AT Pro lets a user select between the STanDard processed audio, similar to former models, or the PROportional audio [size=small](aka modulated)[/size], and my preferences with the AT Pro was, by far, the Proportional audio. Much better audio target information and versatility. I also don't use a lot of iron rejection, depending upon the model detector in-hand, often using a 2-Tone audio that produces a lower, bass-like audio for most Ferrous targets, and a higher-pitched audio for Non-Ferrous targets.
With my MXT All-Pro I often use the Relic mode with Iron ID 'On' selected, keeping my Discrimination either at the minimum setting which is a 'Zero' Disc. or all-metal accept setting, or sometimes I might use a little rejection, but no more than just enough to reject iron nails on the ground. With the MX5 I can d the same by 'accepting' all Disc. segments, providing Zero Disc. or all-metal accept, or I just reject the first three Disc. segments to knock out most iron nails.
This way I can choose to hear all or some iron, but audibly classify
most of it
sometimes.
larryk56 said:
With the iron audio feature on - correct me if I am wrong -
when you go over say pull tabs on the pro - you will clearly
know its pretty much a trash target but with the MX5 you
really don't have a clue until you dig.
Wrong!
Pull tabs, whether they are the early-era ring-pull types or the modern rectangular pry-tab type, are non-ferrous so they are going to respond with a higher pitch [size=small](tone)[/size] than iron, and the only way a Garrett AT Pro or Teknetics Omega or White's MXT series or MX5 model will help suggest them being a 'trash' target is with the visual Target ID or VDI numbers response, not the audio Tone ID.
The AT Pro and MX5 audio Iron ID will 'hint' that a target
might be trash, if it is an iron target and produces a lower reading, visibly and audibly, but beyond that it is up to the detector's visual display [size=small](a reasonable 'hint')[/size] or your eyes [size=small](Beep-
DIG!)[/size].
larryk56 said:
I wish there was a dealer in my area that had both
machines to test side by side. It's a tough Call!
I wish you were in my area and I would be glad to help demonstrate for you, but I'd have to borrow an AT Pro. I had one and used it in evacuation and, I will say, it was a marked improvement from Garrett. But it had its own weak points, in
my opinion, and I already had models that were better suited to my needs at the time. [size=small](An MXT Pro, M6, modified IDX Pro, and Omega.)[/size]
Just my thoughts and opinions. Questions? Shoot me an e-mail.
Monte