MX Sport unmasking

[coinspader]

I just wanted to comment on how well my Whites MX Sport unmasks good targets in iron infested areas. I have been pulling out coins and nails out of the same holes. I have only had the sport for a week now and I have been using it with the stock 10" coil with really impressive results. The target ID and depth are also very good, I have been running it with the gain on 6 and digging 8 to 9 inch targets. Very good detector IMHO.

 

[Hombre]

Just wait until you try the 6 shooter coil, it unmasks like a Bandido but with an accurate meter and lots more depth.

 

[coinspader]

Can't wait to get it.

 

[MattBullSummerville]

It's a crazy deep detector. I'm hanging on the mine for now. Soil here in Boise is very mineralized. I just add beach to C&J mode or high trash and it knocks the hot rocks right out.

 

[Tajue17]

I just bought one yesterday is there anything you guys would recommend to a new user right out of the gate?

 

[dfmike]

It's a crazy deep detector. I'm hanging on the mine for now. Soil here in Boise is very mineralized. I just add beach to C&J mode or high trash and it knocks the hot rocks right out.

What do you mean by adding beach to C&J mode ? You use beach mode at times instead of C&J ?

 

[MattBullSummerville]

You can add beach ground balance to the coin & jewelry mode, expands the ground balance. Or add it to the Hi-trash mode. It's in the settings when you scroll through them.

 

[JaBo]

Can you explain in more detail how you do that? adding beach ground balance to coin and jewelry program? Thanks

 

[Monte]

There are times its useful other than at the beach, but don't get caught up thinking that it's always going to be beneficial. There's a time and place for every function but not every function is proper for every time and place.

Monte

 

[Tajue17]

so while in C&J mode there is an option to turn on and add in Beach?? wondering though is that when your pretty much running the C&J in stock settings,,, and if so is there a way to fine tune those stock settings to achieve the same thing as Beach mode? just curious and just trying to get the hang of this machine....

for me its beeping all over the place and I'd love to be able to notch out certain digits and not groups of numbers,,, so in C&J I have the sens at 5, thresh at 2 for light hum, and last night had the tracking locked (per monte) I tried the tones at 2/4/8 and I'm only paying attention tot he high pitched tones and let me tell you my head is ready to explode after 10 minutes of wearing those headphones!! I dug three signals that said it was coins and I understand is ball park but one the GB was pinpointing 00 depth and I couldn't find anything I think it was a rock,,, 2nd was a old two leader cap and third was a lead wheel weight,, keep in mind I drilled this yard with a super tuned Tesoro but I'm hoping the MXS finds something the Vaguero missed but not yet...

I know this machine is special and I know I have to spend time with it so I'm not giving up on it for at least a year but so far this thing is HOT,, I think the only program I can mentally tolerate for more than 30 minutes is the hi trash, keeping in mind my other machines pretty much notched all that stuff out,,

one thing I wish this machine had was the ability to notch out single numbers,, like Gold 00 which just roars out of the speaker more than anything!!

wanted to ask if I get another coil would this machine calm down??? I found a 13" detech Ultimate DD coil forsale,, I was told to get a concentric too which I have my eye out for BUT only if it will make learning the machine easier

 

[dfmike]

Tajue17, I doubt that getting a concentric will help tame this hot machine. I have the stock concentric on my MX7 and have issues dealing with the noise as well. I don't have too many problems finding good targets though. Usually when targets stay in the same category or adjacent category in one way and at 90 degrees, it's a good target and I dig it. It has been for me anyway... so far. I'm still learning it. I have been running C&J exclusively for now. Try discriminating the 0-5 category. I think gold 00 is for really small nuggets. None of my gold items have registered in the lower positive range when air testing. Even the tiniest of gold rings (almost looks like a baby ring) gives me 06-08 on the MX7.

 

[dfmike]

You can add beach ground balance to the coin & jewelry mode, expands the ground balance. Or add it to the Hi-trash mode. It's in the settings when you scroll through them.

Matt, do you mean adding the Salt Track feature (explained in the manual) ?

 

[Tajue17]

yes that is what he means I did it yesterday and it does quiet the machine down for me.... I spent more time with my machine yesterday and check this out I have already been over my yard numerous times and I did know there was junk out there but yesterday I decided to dig anything that signaled the same at the cross sweeps,,,,, I dug 1/2 a lawnmower blade,, a 1' section of casr (or carriage) spring, rusty nails, a wheat pennie, a couple brass things look like old cable or phone wire fittings.... so this machine isn't lying it is seeing stuff,,,,, I believe my experience is its just HOT..

question for the longtime users,,,,,,how many tones are you running and are you all locking the tracking and if so do you recheck a lot? do you use the SAT and VCO a lot???

 

[cal]

I think the number of tones can be a personal preference. I am trying them all and finding I like the 8 tone and 2 tone the best so far( just 20 + hours). I use my GB tracking in low target areas like sand volley ball courts, but I lock most of the time because I am suspicious that it effects TID a little in high target areas. I check my GB some, but not that much because of my generally even moderate ground. I have found this machine is no wimp( I found 2 inch zincolns at 00 sensitivity), but can run it in high EFI areas in the 8-9 range.This is higher than my Patriot and Mojave. You do have to use the 1001 and 1002 sweep speed to keep falsing in check at these high sensitivities. In lower sensitivity 5-6 you can sweep faster. So far this has been my experiences, yours maybe different. HH

 

[MattBullSummerville]

Guess I should clarify what I meant by adding beach (Salt Tracking) to Coin & Jewelry mode, sorry if I confused you. I called it adding beach is actually adding salt tracking, and there are times when it can be a benefit to ad salt tracking. Page 24 of the Users Manuel explains how adding Salt Tracking. You can add Salt Tracking to most of the search modes on the MX sport.

I was running the sensitivity at about 4-5 in Coin & Jewelry mode and was getting some ground noise or hot rocks sounding like targets. One small rock when I ran it under to coil gave a tone and ID. I added salt tracking without having to lower the sensitivity and the hot rock stopped responding. We have a lot of iron and other minerals in the soil around Boise ID. Try lowering the sensitivity, then raising it up until you start to get false tones or ground noise, then back off the sensitivity a click or two. I hope this helps make better sense for you now.

 

[Tajue17]

I pulled the trigger yesterday on a good CL deal and got a 13" detech DD coil and took the Sport to a cornfield yesterday and I was getting a lot of quarters (82 and up on the scale) that would say they was 5" deep,,,, thing is a bunch of times I would dig down past 5" and still getting nothing on the pro pointer even though the pin point is still showing 5".

so is the center of the pin point under the coil where the pole attachs? and when just normal sweeping is the contact the same directly under the coil or is it at the tip of the coil,, I ask this because I realized every other machione I have all have concentric coils the MX stock and this detech ar emy first DD coils..

 

[Monte]

If an object is round shaped, such as a coin or ring, or a trade token, and if it is laying flat in the ground as in flat to the coil, then proper pinpointing technique will isolate that Target below the center axis of the search coil.

If Target object is odd shaped such as a skeleton key, a spoon or knife or Fork, a pocket knife, or some other non round Target, then it will be a little more difficult to pinpoint exactly dead center of the coil. Close perhaps, but not always spot on Center.

Also if it is a nice round object like a coin, trade-token or ring but it is not flat to the coil and is instead, on edge, or abruptly canted, then it is also not going to be pinpointed directly in line with the center axis of the search coil.

Also, pinpointing can be more spot-on dead center and easier to achieve using a concentric coil than a double D coil, but even Double D's when all conditions are in your favor, will pinpoint in the center axis of the search coil.

One other challenge we all face is achieving a good pinpoint when using a larger size search coil. Pinpointing Target will be easier using a smaller size coil, or any coil in a 4 inch to 8 inch diameter. Larger than that and it will start to get a little more difficult. Naturally the difficulty level will be based on the operators experience and skill. Hunt more often and pinpoint as frequently as possible and you will improve those experiences and skills.

Monte

 

[Hombre]

In my 24 years experience, on edge coins or coin shaped objects can and will pinpoint off center, even with a concentric coil. I have witnessed many times that the target will be in the side wall of the hole and even nicked a few coins this way. This can be avoided by probing with a powerful electronic pinpointer like the now out of production UniProbe made by Detector Pro.

 

[Monte]

n/t

 

[dfmike]

I don't have the Detech 13 DD coil on the MX7 but I do have it on my F19 when I bring it at the beach and to this day, I have no idea where it pin points exactly on the coil. It has been my experience that big DD coils can make it hard to pinpoint with accuracy when only using the pin point feature on the detector. When using these bigger coils, the detector will give you a general idea where the target is or where it is centered in relation to the coil by using the pin point button. Release the button and swing the coil on top of the object and slowly bring it back until the sound stops. The target will be just in front of where the coil stopped giving a response. Try moving the coil forward of the object as well. The target should be just at the heel of the coil where it stopped responding. Usually one of the methods will work better for you (swinging the coil back or forward so try both). This is the only method that works for me with the big Detech coil and it works very well. On occasion I will be about an inch off but rarely. This happens mostly on deep targets.