musketeer advantage help..

[ThrowDownBrown]

Went out with the guys tonight and hunted.. Found 2 quarters and 4 pennies.. like 50 or 60 pull tabs and pop tops I tried everything and this thing wont stop hitting hard on pop tops... tried discrimination all the way up and sensitivity down even, this thing still hits harder with better tone on pop tops than on pennies.. how do I know the difference? I burried some and tried to tell but can't.... Why does this thing sound like I am on a quarter when I am on a pop top or pull tab? I wasted tons of time and energy tonight because of this.... Help please... I have no idea what to listen for.. every time I think i got it figured out.. I hit 5 pull tabs that sound like the quarter I previously dug......

 

[Sven]

Whenever I get a new detector, I always try to find a school yard that has a lot of targets good and bad. After about 100 holes you start
to understand the signal the detector is producing. They say it takes about 2 weeks for the brain to rewire itself when learning something new.
Give it some time.

 

[Ron from Michigan]

ThrownDownBrown,When you figure out how to deal with the bottle caps let me know,I think Rick would also find the solution interesting.Don't work to hard digging those caps.Thanks Ron

 

[Gunnar MN]

Thats a good question i have not tried to disq out pull tabs yet , but it sure works good on iron i will do some testing and get back

 

[crazyman]

My best advice for anyone new to detecting is pick a detector that has the features you need for the type of hunting you will be doing the majority of the time. If your going to be selective in your digging like hunting modern parks and schools for coins a detector with an accurate TID or tone ID is the way to go. If your looking for jewelry along with coins at these same sites you have to dig it all, foil, pull tabs and bottle caps so tone ID and or meter is not needed. I don't think the Advantage would be my pick for selective digging in modern sites. It's more of a dig it all detector. The forte of the Advantage is it's great depth in mineralized ground and iron infested sites. The Advantage loves small foil and aluminum which suites me just fine as it is pretty sensitive to small gold for a low frequency detector. I use my Advantage only in areas like old iron infested ghost towns and beaches where I want to dig everything that beeps. For cherry picking old parks, schools or lawns for old coins only I use one of my detectors that has a meter so I can be selective and not waste time on the modern trash. As far as the old steel bottle caps, all detectors like round things like these caps and rusty washers that have been in the ground for a period of time and these can be a problem. Some detectors handle them better than others but most will still hit them and ID them as coins. Yes guys , even the Sovereigns will hit these rusty caps and washers and like any other detector you have to learn the Sovereign sounds to be able to ignore them. Whether it's a TID or non TID detector some will give you clues in the audio signal that the target might be a rusty round object. On some detectors it very noticeable on others it takes a bit of time in the field with the detector to hear or learn the difference. In my ground with the Advantage these rusted caps do give a repeatable signal but the tone because of the rust is really harsh compared to a good target. It just might be my nasty ground or maybe my ground balance settings as I always manually GB the Advantage for each and every site. One thing you could try is set your discrimination to 10-11 o'clock sensitivity at 1 o'clock take several rusty caps and ground balance your detector to them and see if it might help with the audio ID.

 

[ThrowDownBrown]

K, great idea .. thanks guys

 

[Ron from Michigan]

Crazyman,I noticed the detectors used in your signature bar the Elite is at the bottom of your list.

 

[chuck ky]

i haven't used my musky very much but when i did i set it at full disc. and it never made a sound on pulltabs. i did get a lot od iron that sounded good.

 

[crazyman]

Each one has it's own use for different types of hunting. I just picked up the Elite recently so I added it last. I used the Sovereigns for about 8 years but haven't had one for a while after the last one went toes up. I kinda missed it for certain hunting sites so had to have another one. If I had to pick one out of the list for most of my hunting it would be my modified IDX Pro.

 

[JHM]

Give it some time is good advise. I've never owned a musketeer so I can't give advise on that. But I've got an explorer and I wanted to wrap it around a tree at times . It took me a year before I learned how to use it. If things aren't getting better in a couple of months, you might want to think about another model. Detectors are like fishing rods, each one performs best when used for what it was designed for. I wish I could help, I've been in the same situation before.