MSC cruise line

[mham2]

If you are planning on a cruise and metal detecting , you may want to avoid MSC cruise line . They will they will take your detector from you and only allow you you have when you get off the ship . You must return it to security when you get back on and when the cruise is over takes about 1 hr to get it back . Never had a problem with other cruise lines

 

[Tom_in_CA]

If you are planning on a cruise and metal detecting , you may want to avoid MSC cruise line . They will they will take your detector from you and only allow you you have when you get off the ship . You must return it to security when you get back on and when the cruise is over takes about 1 hr to get it back . Never had a problem with other cruise lines

Can you think of A SINGLE good reason for this ? Since when is a metal detector any different than any other type electronic device someone might bring aboard ?? Eg.: a laptop computer, a medical device, a musical instrument, a smart phone etc.... I mean, do they think it will interfere with the ship's navigation devices ?? WTF ?

I'll bet I can venture a guess: Someone way-back-when , before booking a cruise, asked the cruise-line: "Can I take my metal detector on board ?". This ... uh ... "pressing question" gets bandied around back and forth between engineers and lawyers. Till eventually, someone gives you the "safe answer". (When in fact no one cared less).

I even heard of a cruise line who said "no" to both bringing one on board OR using it at ports-of-call ? Why ? Since when was it any of their business ?? They pull into ports where there is NO LAWS in those countries forbidding (detectors a common site on beaches). Ok, so ... WHY THEN ?

It's exactly as I say: Someone(s) , way back when , put this "pressing question" to the cruise line (hey, can't be too safe after all, eh?). And the lawyers for said cruise-line pass the "pressing question" to a border lawyer consulate in that country. Who promptly couches the question in terms of shipwreck salvor laws, raiding the pyramids, exporting gold bars, etc... And says "no". Presto: A cruise-ship line rule is born. Gee, aren't we glad we all asked ?

It's as if we md'rs can be our own worst enemy. FOR EXAMPLE: How did you find out that security would "confisicate your detector" ? Let me guessed: You asked. Right ? See the self-fulfilling vicious loop ? Don't get me wrong, I'm not blaming you. But just pointing out how this bologna gets started.

 

[Tom_in_CA]

.... Never had a problem with other cruise lines

really ? I bet I can change that in a heart-beat. All I have to do is call those cruise-lines and ask: "Can I take my electronic metal detector on the ship ? And can I use it on the ports we pull into ?"

If I pepper the question with key words and phrases like: "Take", "harvest", "dig", "alter", "deface" "interfere with navigation", "cultural heritage", "indian bones", etc... I bet I can get a "no".

And then, it's not good enough to get a verbal "yes". I'd be sure to put a contract in front of them to sign (can't be too safe after all). They love to sign notarized contracts after all. I bet I can get a "no" from every single cruise-line you haven't gotten a "no" from. Just have to ask the right person, in the right way.

 

[Tom_in_CA]

Sorry. Didn't mean to come on strong. I stress that YOU are not the one who brought about this strange answer. If it's a rehearsed answer you got, it was NOT d/t them getting it the first time from you . Ie.: a "pressing issue" they needed to authorize or decline. It was from persons in the past. Not you. Hence sorry for the accusatory tone.

I did just study all the pertinent parts of their website:

https://www.msccruisesusa.com/en-us/Homepage.aspx

No mention, in any of their rules or FAQ that say anything about metal detectors. Unless I missed it ? I also used their key word search on "metal" and "detectors" and found nothing . So I'm guessing the info. came from calling or emailing them. And such was probably the way the issue got decided in the past.

I wonder if persons would think they need to ask "can I bring my laptop" ? Or "digital camera" ? Or any other electronic device. Probably not .

 

[doc holiday232]

Don't AXE--just DO.

 

[Tom_in_CA]

Don't AXE--just DO.

No no no. You have to have princely blessing express "yes's". Just like if you intended to fly frisbees on that beach (or bring a frisbee on board the ship) you need to ask "can I ?"

After all : You could poke someone's eye out with that frisbee. And after all, it doesn't hurt to ask. And after all, you want to be law-abiding . Laws that could forbid "throwing projectiles" could exist after all. Thus it's your duty to ask.

 

[Champ Ferguson]

Tom, and I honestly ask this with no malice whatsoever, is there any scenario that you don't apply your story to? Do you cut and paste it and just change the details to fit or do you write it from scratch each time?

 

[Tom_in_CA]

No. Because the "let's all grovel and wait for a no" scenario never changes either

 

[Champ Ferguson]

It just seems that you write the same what if story for every scenario that you come across. Some are quite a stretch. A fresh angle might help your message get across better.

 

[stoneshirt]

Tom. Thought you were going to back off? Ken