More F75 testing.......vs ....other detectors

[AndyNM]

Today i buried a nickel and a quarter 10" down in a volleyball field. The sand ground balances at 85 with fast-grab. Was able to run JE mode (the high gain mode) very stable so i raised sensitivity to 90.
The visual ID showed number 14 most of the time. I was able to raise the coil about 4 more inches. So at a total of 14 inches the signal was still good but visual id was jumping all over the place but never in the iron range. 14 inches wasn't the limit but the signal wasn't so clear anymore that i would dig it. De mode found the Nickel too but the audio wasn't as clear. Depth was about 3" less at same sensitivity setting. I was using single tone and disc at 5.

I tested my Whites M6 with 6x10 DD on the nickel with max. sensitivity and it found the nickel too but Id'ed it as a hot rock.

The Vaquero couldn't find it with with the standard coil and gave a very weak signal with the 12x10 DD coil at max sensitivity.

All detector were ground balanced at the same spot. GB on the M6 was locked after Gbing.

On the 10" deep quarter the Vaquero and M6 were asking what target ?
Well if you know there was the quarter you would say they gave a weak signal. The F75 had to fight with the quarter too, but with the coil 2" over the ground. (JE mode with 95 sensitivity). ID was at 80 to 99 jumping.

Summary:

if you can run the F75 hot (JE mode with high sensitivity without interference) it will outperform most detectors. Don't forget that the ground read at 85 so you may have even better results in milder ground.

From now on i believe if someone claims that he pulled a button at 12" with the F75. It can be done !
The F75 is hotter on lower conductors (gold rings / nickels) than on silver. The Explorer may still be the silver king when swung slow.

Only thing i need next is the small coil.

I wouldn't wonder if Bill Ladd is pulling some nice relics at the DIV 7 with the F75 this weekend.

Get ready for some overtime at First Texas.

Andy,NM

 

[Low-Boy/LCPM]

Why did the F75 ID the nickel at such a low number?

 

[Rick(ND)]

I notice this too with the F-75 and the T-2 when i had it. The reason I feel is because of the depth of the coin and you will notice this on a air test too. Once it gets over 8 inches from the coil the ID numbers get lower, but like most people if it is weak and deep I will be digging it. The Walking lib half I got last year with the T-2 in a well worked area showed a ID of a pulltab and the tone of one, but being it showed 13 inches deep it was one I would dig. I pay more attention to the ID on shallow targets and not on deep repeatable ones.

 

[Tom E IL]

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[FrankMD]

Thanks Andy for the F75 test and comparision.

It'd be interesting to see the same test performed in bad mineral ground.

I was wondering if the same speed of response that makes the F75 an excellent unit as far as target separation also helps it in separating the bad ground (iron minerals) from good targets?

 

[AndyNM]

All detectors i've used drop the numbers with depth. With the F75 you have at least a "depth on the fly " meter so you can learn how what target reads at what depth. Some detectors don't even ID anymore at 10" (if they can detect that deep).
Is there a detector that Ids a nickel the same at 10" depth as a shallow one ? I haven't seen one, maybe the Explorer ? I don't know.

Over 8" you should dig any target.

Andy

 

[AndyNM]

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[Bill Ladd]

Right away in a pounded Yankee camp as soon as I got out of the car I had 2 buttons....
The guys I was hunting with said..."I'm buying 2 f75's!"

I also pulled a brass Shenkle shell fuse out of the thick iron of a period house site....

 

[FrankMD]

I found one of those years ago near Hagerstown MD. Mine had nice gold gilt on it. Thanks for al the F75 reports.

 

[Low-Boy/LCPM]

Are you working for Fisher Bill! I do love the F75 better then the T2 even no they are very much alike in relic mood you can program the F75 better in relic mood and I like the 3H and 4H a lot like my Fisher 70 pro and CZ3D. Any tricks you have learned. Do you still hunt in 1F mood? And what is your disc at..anything you can offer is cool. I saw your video from the east coast at the big hunt. Found this at an old school at 8 inches down. Have hunted this school a long time and the barber was not found very easliy had to really work the ground to peep at the numbers and saw an upper 80 and saw the depth change with the other targets...Very cool!

 

[Jackpine Savage]

HI Bill,

Congrats on the finds. It sounds like you guys had a whale of a good time "Diggin in Va"!

I hear the F-75 handled the hot ground exceptionally well. Was that a concensus? I'm sure a lot of folk were waiting on the acid test of how it handled there.

Tom

 

[BuckeyeBrad]

I was VERY pleased with how the 75 performed at the DIV! There are a lot of the guys over that way that use the MXT and since I was hunting with a friend that uses one also, we checked targets whenever feasible and the 75 was always equal to or better than how it detected targets. The "better than" part is what opened my eyes. It's array of tools made it very easy to cope with the extreme and varying conditions in a very effective way. The all metal mode and the depth of ID in same needs to be seen to believe. I probably used a dozen different setups and by that I mean more than just sensitivity and GB. I literally don't have a better more versatile ID machine in my LARGE arsenal.

 

[Dan-Pa.]

We all know depth tests can differ greatly by the ground in your area operator expertise etc., but it appears to be a deep detector and able to handle bad ground and masking well. Am sure with more time in the field and increased operator expertise depth may increase in future tests.
Having said the above my CZ will hit a silver dime in the 10-12 inch area with an accurate ID, but of course have used CZ's since 1992 and surely know they are subject especially to iron masking...Keep the input coming guys and gals....

 

[FrankMD]

"Having said the above my CZ will hit a silver dime in the 10-12 inch area with an accurate ID"

In what kind of ground? White sand, black sand medium, bad, etc

Thanks

Frank

 

[Dan-Pa.]

Years ago when I had an XLT which had the ability to measure ground, can't remember exact numbers but I hunt in bad ground just below super bad ground..On N.J. wet saltwater beaches 15 inch quarters were quite common in the area of the Casinos. All in all going to depend on your neck of the woods..It appears once the F-75 goes around the block several times and fellows learn the ins and outs quite likely will be comparable to a CZ without the liking for iron...I remember when I had my new CZ6 in 92 almost wrapped it around a tree after digging 8 deep well rusted nails so tough to compare a new kid on the block with one thats been around for 15 years.

 

[Jackpine Savage]

For the report. I know of a couple people from that area that are now considering getting a T2 or F-75.

Tom

 

[Anonymous]

To satisfy your curiosity and then sell it 2 days like U did the T-2 after it found U some old coins- then go back to that boat anchor Exploder right?????? What ever happen to "im a CZ man??????"

Now you wont rip the F-75 on your exit-- just say "not my cup of tea'- "not in my soil'- ' not in my test bed"-"not in my living room"- I require deep silver"--

Same song and dance every new mashine-

AJ.

 

[FrankMD]

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