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More Effort WIth My CZ-21

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ArnieTX

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My primary machine is an Etrac. I bought the CZ-21 to water hunt the river down the road and the occasional trip to the beach. That said, I haven't played with it very much on a day to day basis.

I relic hunt mostly and have been doing very well with the Etrac. I dig everything above iron so I got to thinking I should try out the CZ-21. I know the Etrac is a deep machine but I wonder how my CZ-21 compares.

I buried a quarter in my yard last year at 10". At the time I had traded an Etrac for a V3i and I could never find the quarter. I never really got the V3i to produce finds at depth so I traded it for another Etrac. Needless to say, when I received the Etrac I couldn't find the quarter either..... LMAO.

Anyway, I went out today determined to find the quarter with the Etrac. I tweaked all the settings and cranked up the sens and I located it, not the prettiest signal but a digger if you worked it. I dug down to confirm and then covered the hole back up. Since I now knew where it was, I pulled my CZ-21 out of the closet and BANG, it hit it with ease from all directions. I'm not talking iffy like the Etrac, I'm talking lift the coil an inch or two off the ground and BANG. Dead solid no doubt dig-able signal.

I pulled out a pile of relics this evening and tested the disc settings to see where everything falls. It looks like a setting of 1 will hit buttons, buckles, bullets, and everything above, even gold. Good enough!

I also zip tied the control housing to the bottom of the shaft to make it swing/weight better and now this thing feels so good. It's balanced and doesn't feel like I'm tearing a rotator cuff to swing it. I'll hit my pounded spots this weekend and see how it does. Maybe I'll recover some deeper stuff.
 
Zipties work pretty good to mount the control box under the shaft for awesome balance.
 
Nice way to balance it.

Where you say you can hit everything you are looking for with the discriminator set at 1; I hear you; yet I still hunt with it set on 0. Why I hunt on 0 is that I can hear the low tone and hear if it is a bounce on the signal or not. For me that is important information. Any bounce to mid-tone is a must dig. A bounce to high tone may be iron, so I slow the sweep way down and see if it then stays low tone. If it stays low tone with a very slow sweep, I normally don't dig it and go find the next target. If I still get a bounce with a slow sweep and walking around the target to explore it from different directions, the target gets dug up.

The following link is to a post with a video of some detector testing. Note that on one test of a deep gold ring, the CZ hits the ring solid, but it is a solid low tone. At the beach I now also flip the CZ to autotune and listen for how round the threshold rise is from different directions when it is a solid low tone on discrimination of 0. If it is a short round threshold rise on a deep target, it will get dug.

http://www.findmall.com/read.php?23,1625643,1625643#msg-1625643

Cheers,
tvr
 
Thanks for the input/advice and the link to the video.
 
Now that you zip tied the control housing underneath, when you go to dig a target and want to lay the machine down. How do you lay it down without laying it on the control box?
 
Right now I lay it on the control box. I have a few ideas I'm playing with to remedy that though. Stay tuned.
 
pulltab68 said:
Now that you zip tied the control housing underneath, when you go to dig a target and want to lay the machine down. How do you lay it down without laying it on the control box?
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Even in factory configuration the CZ21 is very top heavy so would fall over lots.

Dave
 
Hey! You've been having a good year with that key date half dime and all...:clapping:

I had a CZ20 and built this harness out of an old trolling motor battery box....I would hip mount it with a wide quick release dive belt threaded through the slots and it really balanced out the rig and made it very comfortable...or you could chest mount it like the pic, but it sometimes gets in the way there, unless you are wading waist deep or deeper...I liked the hip mount better..Merry Christmas buddy..!
Mud.
 
I'm pretty happy with how it's balanced right now. It swings nicely.

I have a few ideas for protecting the top cover but haven't had a chance to play with it yet.

Will report back once I do.

Thanks,
 
I am just a little curious. Why don't you buy a divers web belt and put it on your waist? It makes the machine a whole lot lighter to carry, easier to swing and to me a lot more fun. It looks good the way you did it but have you ever tried to have it on your side and off the rod?

Good luck with it and I hope you have lots of success in the water.
 
I don't like the hip mount style. Too much cord to get tangled up in....... it least for me..
 
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