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Minelab missed the boat in my opinion

DirtAngler

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Won't divulge where I got my Minelab Profind25 but will say this, unless you need something different than the GPP because of crosstalk, don't waste your money.
The GPP is deeper even with the Profind's sensitivity all the way up. The Profind 25 is quieter, but its vibration isn't as strong as the GPP. In my opinion the only plus factors would be elimination of detector interference, if it does eliminate it, I don't have a detector that the GPP interferes with since I sold my MXT, and the sensitivity decrease if ever needed. I ordered one because I had a MXT and the interference was bad, but now my 170.00 profind25 is my backup to the 127.00 GPP. JMHO.
 
I've ran across a few blurbs where people are saying the Pro Pointer is deeper but have also seen others that say the reverse. I'm with holding judgement until more tests from others come in. It may be a few people got duds or something and others will get deeper. One thing I would warn people about though is to do the tests outside away from EMI. My Pro Pointer seems to get less depth inside in air tests than outside, so I suspect it's auto tune at power up is adjusting lower due to EMI instability. That might be an issue with the Minelab one too.

In my view the only thing that would make me want to spend more than I did for the Pro Pointer is if it gets a good bit deeper, and also with that increased depth it doesn't have instability issues where you have to play with the levels of sensitivity. As it stands now I'm more than happy with the depth of the Pro Pointer, and of course it's quick and easy to instantly super tune it for even more depth on those rare occassions I can't hear the target.

Beyond good depth I just want vibrate and audio which the Pro Pointer has all three. I don't need anything else in a pin pointer myself. And one of the biggest pluses to me about the Pro Pointer is that all prior pin pointers I used would be a major hassle at tuning at almost every hole. With it's auto tune it's no hassle at all. On rare occassions it will false due to heavy ground minerals. Easy fix. Just turn it on with the tip touching the ground and it will auto adjust to it. Also, if I'm trying to narrow down a target among targets or trace a target's shape out I just detune it by turning it on with the tip near metal. Works like a charm.

How heavy is that Minelab compared to the Pro Pointer? And is it thicker and more "squarish" in the hand area or is that my imagination from watching the Minelab video? Wondering if it feels as comfortable/natural in the hand as the Pro Pointer?
 
The comparison in weight and size and feel is about equal in all aspects. My findings and opinions were based on using and comparing them during an actual hunt, and in my opinion, the GPP is the clear choice even with some of the quirks mine has. Now if I still had my MXT which had crosstalk with the GPP and if in fact the Minelab PF25 eliminates this, then it would be my choice if using the MXT.
 
DirtAngler said:
Won't divulge where I got my Minelab Profind25 but will say this, unless you need something different than the GPP because of crosstalk, don't waste your money.
The GPP is deeper even with the Profind's sensitivity all the way up. The Profind 25 is quieter, but its vibration isn't as strong as the GPP. In my opinion the only plus factors would be elimination of detector interference, if it does eliminate it, I don't have a detector that the GPP interferes with since I sold my MXT, and the sensitivity decrease if ever needed. I ordered one because I had a MXT and the interference was bad, but now my 170.00 profind25 is my backup to the 127.00 GPP. JMHO.

When you say "the GPP is deeper even with the Profind sensitivity all the way up", do you mean with or without the GPP being super tuned with the nickel? If it is without, then the sensitivity control on the ProFind is only a detune function in reality. martin
 
I don't supertune my GPP, it does what I need it to do very well stock. Any comparison is with out of box settings whereas I ran my PF25 sensitivity to max. To me, the PF25 is currently the 2nd best pinpointer available. Like I said, it is comparable to the GPP. Depth diff. - not much but some, advantage GPP. If you want vibrate only - advantage PF25 but the vibrate function isn't as strong as the GPP. Machine interference - don't have a machine currently that the GPP interferes with since I sold the MXT. Price - advantage GPP. These are my honest opinions and not meant to bash any pinpointer, just how my equipment compares.
 
All I want in pinpointer depth is a good couple of inches anymore and if there is much trash around you'll get pulled off target. I have a metal detector that gets me within a couple of inches, I just need a pinpointer to help me retrieve the target. Now the ones that only go 1/4" isn't worth the battery to run them.

Mark
 
You should divulge the dealer that charged you $170.00. The Pro25 is round like the Garrett and performs about the same until the sensitivity is increased then the Pro25 does much better. The Pro25 also will beep for I think 5 minutes in case it falls out or you leave it laying. The Uni-Probe is better and of coarse in my opinion the Sun-Ray out performs all of them but there will be no Sun-Ray for the CTX. I like the ML and you do not have to put a spacer between the cap and battery to make it work. Call around because there are sponsers a lot cheaper than $170.00. HH
 
My GPP not supertuned out performs the Profind25 with its sensitivity up all the way. A buddy of mine gets the same thing with his. I'm not here to argue a point but just offer the information between "my" GPP compared to the Profind. Maybe it's worthwhile to some and maybe not, that's your decision.
 
Hershey, I don't have a spacer between my battery and the cap on my Pro Pointer. Are you having to use one to snug the battery? If so, the battery tabs are probably bent down and fould be fixed by prying them back up or something. I've dropped my Pro Pointer about three different times from 6 foot onto hard cement due to the bad place I kept it and it still works like new. That told me something about it's build quality.
 
Here is a video showing the Minelab ( in high sens) to be getting more depth than I've measured with the Garrett. Also they show how the longer you leave pinpointers on, at least the two in question here, the deeper they go, and then around 5 mins or so of being on are useless.

I sure do wonder about the variations in reported depth, perhaps EMI.

[video]http://youtu.be/GrBstP9GajQ[/video]
 
No problems with Minelab. I own two but I'm not exactly brand loyal and will use whatever works for me. I will never give up my Pro Pointer even if the MInelab pointer is slightly better (or not). The Pro Pointer has more than proved itself to me.
 
I will have to see how Minelab customer service responds to defective pointers or ones that need to be repaired before I trade in my Garrett. At this point I would rather pay for two GPP's than one Pro-Find. Minelab makes quality products don't get me wrong ... my Explorer is a coin killer. But their customer service is notoriously "not as good" as Garrett's has always been.
 
Yes, I agree...Garrett has awesome customer service. I've heard of them fixing some Pro Pointers out of warranty for free. But, I hear in the past year or so Minelab has vastly improved their customer service. They are at least doing faster turn arounds for repairs from what I hear, which was always a big complaint from people.
 
Here is my comparison on the two.. Fresh duracell's in both.. I got more depth on the ProFind but it's really quiet....
[video]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hmM-K6mdWxo[/video]
 
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