Minelab announcing new detector

[GKMan]

well at least now we know where Minelab has been investing their time and energy, instead of ctx updates...

From an ad by Minelab in Lost Treasure magazine
The First ,Real Compact Mid-range Gold Detector is coming

 

[D&P-OR]

Yeah------We want a few upgrades from that excellent suggestion list we've (long since) given them for the CTX!!-----C'mon Minelab, we will pay you for them---we aren't asking for anything for free!-----Let's (finally) have a little bit in CTX upgrades!

 

[lytle78]

Here are their 2014 priorities - a slide from Codan's presentation to shareholders in October 2013.

Should be an exciting year.

 

[OldBeechnut]

Many years ago when the Excalibur first came out there were serious issues with them leaking, they made some changes after a few years and things got better. Give them time they are listening and know the issues. One of the un-noticed changes in the early models were the Knob shaft O rings (Added a top third O-ring) and finally in 98 they did a lot of retooling and change the pod and PCB...All for the better.

 

[GKMan]

Hi Anapo, surprised you're still here...

 

[GKMan]

I don't get this potato thing. Is it an Italian insult?

 

[DukeOBass]

I will never submerse my CTX to much uncertainty. Submersion is why I have an Excalibur. I will use the CTX in the rain, but not underwater. It's way too expensive and I've heard my stories of the flooding issues. It should have come equipped with a seal battery like the Excalibur.

 

[anapo]

i have also exalibur

ctx y/n is submersible to 3m o 10ft??

max 50cm ctx floods

I do research surf is not diving

in this mode of research is the ctx upper all'exalibur

thanks to ctx I found a lot of gold compared to excalibur but suffers flooding


many people have had this problem and have


i think mr patato no why ise cacazzone

 

[DukeOBass]

Vi auguro buona fortuna a trovare molto oro con il CTX

 

[wildherre]

I'm sure Minelab will make some improvements but wonder how they will deal with the current design...If I was them, I'd come out with a new model say a 3030 SE with a more robust rear bulkhead & battery seal and a deeper dive rating, lets say 15'... I would introduce other land models that were splash proof to use the current rear bulkheads and batteries and offer to upgrade the old 3030 to a SE for $100 or so replacing the rear bulkhead and battery and any other design flaws they have discovered since release and throw in some software upgrades.. Since this is a upgrade there is no admission of fault with the original design...Once out of warranty, Id charge $300 or so for the upgrade and extend the warranty for 6 months... wildherre

 

[Altamaha]

Many years ago when the Excalibur first came out there were serious issues with them leaking, they made some changes after a few years and things got better. Give them time they are listening and know the issues. One of the un-noticed changes in the early models were the Knob shaft O rings (Added a top third O-ring) and finally in 98 they did a lot of retooling and change the pod and PCB...All for the better.

I will not get into the specifics of this but to be fair it was a friend of mine and experienced scuba diver (not Minelab) who largely came up with the packaging ideas/design that made the original Sovereign (Excalibur) a success as an underwater BBS metal detector. Luckily unlike with the suggestion that many of us have made here regarding the CTX 3030 they adopted his ideas and the success of the Excalibur is history. I'm sure that at least a few others on this forum are aware of this. Just my two cents.

 

[Altamaha]

I'm sure Minelab will make some improvements but wonder how they will deal with the current design...If I was them, I'd come out with a new model say a 3030 SE with a more robust rear bulkhead & battery seal and a deeper dive rating, lets say 15'... I would introduce other land models that were splash proof to use the current rear bulkheads and batteries and offer to upgrade the old 3030 to a SE for $100 or so replacing the rear bulkhead and battery and any other design flaws they have discovered since release and throw in some software upgrades.. Since this is a upgrade there is no admission of fault with the original design...Once out of warranty, Id charge $300 or so for the upgrade and extend the warranty for 6 months... wildherre

Great idea wildherre, that is exactly the kind of thing that one of their major competitors (won't mention the name) did after the release of their top of the line x3 ("bucking horse") detector. After listening to customer complaints and realizing the flaws in this detector they rather promptly offered to upgrade (install a new Eprom module), improve the display pod & wireless headphones, etc, for a very reasonable $125.00 for owners of the x3 machine. The result was a virtually new machine x3i that fixed the unruly nature of the previous beast and added a variety of new/improved functions. But then, we're dealing with Minelab here and we know their history of unresponsiveness!

 

[DukeOBass]

The list of "design flaws" has been issued. I don't think MineLab will be as generous with their customers, even those of us who have owned 4 or more of their high-end, expensive machines. They like to offer items like pin pointers and 17"coils free after "early purchasers" jumped in to support MineLab by buying the latest, greatest. Our reward is spending more money.

 

[OldBeechnut]

I will not get into the specifics of this but to be fair it was a friend of mine and experienced scuba diver (not Minelab) who largely came up with the packaging ideas/design that made the original Sovereign (Excalibur) a success as an underwater BBS metal detector. Luckily unlike with the suggestion that many of us have made here regarding the CTX 3030 they adopted his ideas and the success of the Excalibur is history. I'm sure that at least a few others on this forum are aware of this. Just my two cents.

Yes I know Gary's Great story behind the Excalibur and his talented friend who designed the housing.. And Minelabs bought the rights to, and to this day he still receives a check for everyone sold.

 

[GKMan]

Hey! I was there working in Gary's store testing alot of those housings and coils before final assembly..
I imagine some of those excaliburs are still finding treasure

 

[OldBeechnut]

Hey! I was there working in Gary's store testing alot of those housings and coils before final assembly..
I imagine some of those excaliburs are still finding treasure

I get feed back from several I have repaired, And Yes they are finding the gold still !!

Bet you have some Great stories. I stopping on the xcalibur repairs come April 1st, I'm doing about 4 a week now, maybe you should take over since you had your hands on the testing. Things have not changed much. Every once and awhile I get a run of Swords in for repair....

 

[GKMan]

Awesome beechnut, if I wasn't so busy with two little kids running around, I would seriously consider that.. . You don't happen to know anyone that does repairs on sovereigns? If you do could you pm me please?

 

[jtalley007]

Can you imagine a car company having a recall from something they did then trying to charge us?

I love my CTX but we basicly end up paying to test a detector and identify the bugs so when we discover issues I sure don't want to pay for a fix. JMHO.