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Mill Creek Park in Ohio Closed to metal detecting.

Ron from Michigan

Ron from Michigan

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I was told this was an up grade to get Federal Dollars.Nothing like having our tax dollars working for us.Thanks Ron
 
YOU ARE RIGHT RON. THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT KNOWS WHAT'S BEST. I LIKE IT WHEN THEY TEAR SOMETHING DOWN, AND WON'T LET YOU HUNT, BECAUSE OF HISTORICAL VALUE,, AND THEN PUT CONCRETE AND PAVEMENT OVER IT. THIS HAPPENED TO A FRIEND AND I IN NEW BRAUNSFELS. WE WERE HUNTING WHERE THEY WERE WIDENING A STREET, WITH LOTS OF CLEANED OUT HOMESITES. A COP CAME UP AND TOLD US WE HAD TO LEAVE AND COULDN'T BE DIGGING THERE. IT WAS UNLAWFUL. I'M SURE IT IS COVERED BY ASPHALT NOW. WHAT A WASTE. I DON'T EVEN GO THERE ANY MORE UNLESS I HAVE TO DRIVE THOUGH THE TOWN-LOL. HH-MARK
 
BUT..... It is possible it may happen... and SOON... Here's the story.. evidently this place is on the national historical register list.. BUT IS NOT A NATIONAL PARK !!!. FURTHER MORE. a park employee stopped by this morning just as I was walking to my car ( im figuring he's going to tell me that detecting is no longer allowed) but turns out that he's just getting into the hobby himself.. He and I shoot the bull somemore and I ask him if he's heard this rumor of no more detecting??

He was like, what the hell you talking about?? He went to say that a park cop came by while he was detecting and jokingly said he wanted 1/2 the split from what he had found....I told him what cop had given my buddy the initial info about detecting comming to and end soon and also gave him my phone # to call me as soon as he talks to her about this..

SO, this is what I know for now... I've had some killer finds come out of there over the yrs... and yes, they are getting scarce, but I gotta find me a seated before the fat lady sings...


Later.. Mark ( ohio )
 
Mark,a gentleman I just sold a 180 meter to Marshall told me the park officials are closing the park off to dogs and metal detecting.He said that dogs would have to go to designated areas.Marshall said this would take place soon forgot the exact date,he was told by park officials and cops.I hope I am wrong,just relaying information.I would at least complain to the ones in charge of the park and remind them you are a taxpayer and metal detecting is considered a hobby that is welcomed at many parks.Thanks Ron
 
Yes. I know of who you speak.. We"re in the same detector club...he'd relayed the same info to me a few days back....IF and only If it does happen.. it will take place in a couple of months... I'm gonna wait till I hear from the park employee I talked to this morning and see what he tells me... Its a bit strange these employees are unaware of whats about to transpire... if indeed it goes thru... Next move will be to visit the new park commissioner.

Hope to keep this topic up to speed in the future..

Mark ( ohio )
 
I went to their web page and it says "NO METAL DETECTING". That's over four thousand acres according to the web page that now bans detecting.
 
George,I think the park people need to answer questions about how they made their policy how much money the feds gave them(in other words audit the board).We are 17 trillion dollars in debt in and the US is spending money to kick dogs and people metal detecting out of the park.Another question what kind of salaries do these great thinkers make??????
 
I always wonder what folks really have against metal detecting. Why would you ban a hobby like this. We don't hurt anyone, 99% of us leave the place in better shape then it was before. And lots of us return items, and donate for historical purposes. All we can do is write letters to local politicians, call them, email them, an try an get our word in.

Its a harmless hobby, and its silly to tell some one they can't detect somewhere, then pave over it. lol. hh gl -Joe

ps luckily, around where I live the town parks department is open to it.
 
Joe,people need to get involved and speak out.At this point not sure if there was a town meeting with a prior posted and time date or people didn't attend because they were too busy.With federal funds involved we are all( every state) funding a park that is throwing long time metal detecting hobbyist out.Would like to hear from hunters in the area.Thanks Ron
 
Its true. Without people getting involved...our hobby will be eroded to the point where we will not be able to enjoy it. I live in ma...and there are not many seeking to restrict the hobby. I am still going to do a few things.

Letters. With address on it that ids me. Ill write a few local pols about the hobby.

They carry much more weight then a call or email.


Its funny...we spend hundreds of hours hunting a year. But when push comes to shove afew
hours of time an effort...most are to busy. People definitely need to be more proactive.





Ron from Michigan said:
Joe,people need to get involved and speak out.At this point not sure if there was a town meeting with a prior posted and time date or people didn't attend because they were too busy.With federal funds involved we are all( every state) funding a park that is throwing long time metal detecting hobbyist out.Would like to hear from hunters in the area.Thanks Ron
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Yeah this makes me nauseous. It's where I hunt 99% of the time. My friend just got the boot today from there. I just purchased an Etrac last week too. I don't know what the reason for banning detecting. Because of historical value? Great. Lets leave all the history in the ground so its never discovered. That makes a lot of sense. Have you ever heard of parks going on the National Registry and then coming off? Maybe they'll permit it again in the future???
 
Ohio Digger,I would at least give the Park Officials a call and let them know that you are unhappy,they probably don't care what you think but call them anyway.We need to get together on this problem.This closing effects everyone in the metal detecting hobby and business.Good Luck Ron
 
I was approached on April 02, 2013 by the Park Police with the the notice that I will no longer be allowed to detect in the park. I asked why? She said, we have been bundled in with digging. See it is unlawful to remove rocks, plants and vegetation. Since we dig in the soil, we fall into the area of disturbing the park soil. From the Park Rule Book, I was given at 12 Noon today. "17.1 (A) The use of metal detectors on Park property is prohibited. (B) The excavation, recovery, or removal of any artifact or item of Historical significance from Park Proptery is prohibited. My comment: I guess, If I wreck my antique car over the cliff down into the creek, I will not be able to recover it accordingly to the Park Rules.
I have been going to the park 3 - 4 days a week, 6 - 7 hours ,all year long, winter summer and all day rain storms(Boots and Goretex), detecting for coins and jewelry. My best find to date in Mill Creek was Dec 02, 2012, 1923 S Standing Liberty Quarter in Low Fine condition(MineLab Explorer SE Pro). I am retired, so this is my day job. I have added to my detecting a Minelab Sov GT with Ron's 180 meter. Hi! Ron. I am beginning to like the SOV better than the Explorer. Less complicated, just turn on and once in a while turn this knob and that knob. I have used the SOV for a month now. I just started to dig silver last week (1913 Barber Dime and 1944 Merc), 12 Nickels one silver, 15 Wheats and 10 Bullets, three were unfired. Now that I will be unemployed, I will have to look at other areas. I have much respect for the Mill Creek Police Department. They are a "Great" bunch of men and woman, who assist with pleasure in doing their job. I have talked to many people in the park and they agree.
I do not believe the Public Taxpayer had advanced notice of the new rules. The City of Youngstown, Ohio owns the park. I have only one question to ask the Director, What are the positives in Metal Detecting in the TAXPAYERS PARK? Oh!, By- the- way, Why not issue permits, than you would know who is detecting.
Back a few months, I was approached by a guy and his 2 Foot camera lens. He walks up to me and stares at me. I said, Hello. He replies, What are you doing? I was not hiding my Minelab. I said, Metal Detecting. He replied, Your digging Holes in the Park. I replied, That is was we do Metal Detecting. He said, You probably would be happerier digging at home, in your own back yard. He walked away. I kept my cool. Later, I told a LADY Park Patrol woman, my encounter with his name, PAUL. She said, He gets his kicks by taking pictures of park violators. Example being if anyone is drinking beer or taking a leak behind a tree. Then turns in their picture to the Park Police. AND NOW, I WILL NO LONGER BE ABLE TO PICK UP THE PARK TRASH, SPEND MONEY IN LOCAL STORES and ENJOY MY TAXPAYER PARK. WHAT A BUMMER. THE END.
 
I was given the Rule Book today. I asked the Park Patrol woman again about the Dogs. She said, They will be able to walk them in the park, but must pick up the POOP. I guess, If you look both ways and do not see the Park Police. My dog did not POOP. They will have a designated Dog Park.
 
You talk to the Park Director. I was told by an park employee, that the Park Director does not listen to what the Park Police have to say. A HUGE COMMUNICATION PROBLEM.
 
Marshal,your information is appreciated.There is no reason anyone should question park goers or take photos of people in the park,this behavior should be discouraged by the park..At the park I ski patrol in Michigan this person would be asked to leave and escorted out of the park by a sheriffs deputy.Bottom line you go there to enjoy the park not to have photos taken and interrogated .LOL is there a law against being a tax payer.I hope they gave proper notice before these new decisions or laws were made.Thanks Ron
 
This Camera Guy is on Facebook with lots of wildlife pictures taken in the park. The Patrol Woman said, He was harmless, when I spoke of my encounter with him. I am sure that if I looked into his Facebook, I would not see any of his DARK SIDE pictures. I will not be going back to the Mill Creek Park, till they the park reverses the detecting rule. I am going to get another Rule Book and mail it to you. I just read that my cremated remains can not be buried in the park. Dog leash no longer than 6 feet( throw away that retractable 20 footer).Car window tinting is in the Rule Book. Amazing Rules.
 
I never heard of any towns patrolling parks , beaches or woods at night just not in the budget , there is a good reason why Night Vision head sets are made and camo cloths :cool::detecting:
 
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