I remember back last summer-fall that you'd picked up a Pantera and was wondering how it worked out seeing you really like the new Golden UMax with the new 4-tone setup, esp. for jewelry. Here in Montana I feel I need the manual ground balance of the Pantera,which I have and like alot, but would like to have more than the high and low tone. I don't recall that Tesoro has made any detector, except the Pantera, with both Manual ground balance and Notch. Seems if they'd put Manual ground balance on the Golden UMax it would be a real winner. Anyone else feel that way?
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Mike Hillis-- how'd that Pantera work?
- Thread starter IdigMT
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Mike Hillis
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Hi IdigMT,
I think the Pantera was a great machine. Tesoro should bring it back.
What I really liked most about it, besides the manual 10 turn ground balance, was the notch accept/reject feature. The notch window could be moved throughout the whole conductive range. I do prefer the 4 new tones of the Golden over the Pantera's two tones, though. I get more information from the extra tones. But in high trash area's I would prefer the notch accept feature of the Pantera. The Golden's high tone works good in trash sites for high conductors, but in heavy aluminum trash the notch accept window of the Pantera is more usefull for wading through low conductive trash.
I do wish they produced the Golden with a manual ground balance. I'm getting resigned to having to mod mine if I'm going to continue to use it with other coils. The Cleansweep is pretty forgiving, but I have to open it up and adjust it whenever I use the stock coil or my Troy coil. I've got a SEF coil coming next week that I'm excited about, but it, too, will require me to ground balance it.
HH
Mike
I think the Pantera was a great machine. Tesoro should bring it back.
What I really liked most about it, besides the manual 10 turn ground balance, was the notch accept/reject feature. The notch window could be moved throughout the whole conductive range. I do prefer the 4 new tones of the Golden over the Pantera's two tones, though. I get more information from the extra tones. But in high trash area's I would prefer the notch accept feature of the Pantera. The Golden's high tone works good in trash sites for high conductors, but in heavy aluminum trash the notch accept window of the Pantera is more usefull for wading through low conductive trash.
I do wish they produced the Golden with a manual ground balance. I'm getting resigned to having to mod mine if I'm going to continue to use it with other coils. The Cleansweep is pretty forgiving, but I have to open it up and adjust it whenever I use the stock coil or my Troy coil. I've got a SEF coil coming next week that I'm excited about, but it, too, will require me to ground balance it.
HH
Mike
Personally have used every notch Tesoro ever made and Pantera was indeed the only one with manual ground balance and certainly gave better performance in highly mineralized areas.
Most of these units have audio variances to a trained ear and certainly like gold jewelry and at present use a golden sabre 11 as for my ears gives the best audio variances and only use it basically for shallow clad and that elusive gold ring so depth is not an issue with me as not after deep targets with it although out of notch using the tone setup it becomes a good coin shooter with medium depth. As far as the golden too many notches and tones that run into each other and not my cup of tea but understand Tesoro has now modified the golden U-max for better performance along these lines. Certainly Tesoro notch units are the best gold jewelry units in my estimation and don't leave home without one if looking for that elusive gold ring in your local park..
Most of these units have audio variances to a trained ear and certainly like gold jewelry and at present use a golden sabre 11 as for my ears gives the best audio variances and only use it basically for shallow clad and that elusive gold ring so depth is not an issue with me as not after deep targets with it although out of notch using the tone setup it becomes a good coin shooter with medium depth. As far as the golden too many notches and tones that run into each other and not my cup of tea but understand Tesoro has now modified the golden U-max for better performance along these lines. Certainly Tesoro notch units are the best gold jewelry units in my estimation and don't leave home without one if looking for that elusive gold ring in your local park..
Mike, thanks for your comments on the Pantera. I was surprised that you think Tesoro should bring it back, in light of your appreciation for the Golden UMax. It sounds like its because of the utility of the notch accept, somewhat as Hombre mentions for his intended use next spring. Could you elaborate on that a little more?
Thanks for all the comments on the Pantera , Golden Umax, and Vaquero. They gave me a few other thoughts on these units and wondered what others thought.
The Pantera's Notch features (Accept and Reject) are unique in the Tesoro Line, as well as was its moveability across the whole discrimination scale and its utility for setting the boundary between high and low tones for audio id. Those features are really useful in dealing with trash laden areas, especially when seeking gold jewelry and small silver rings.
Never having any Tesoro experience except the Pantera ( I have other brands), I can only imagine what the audio babble would be like with 4 tones in trash laden areas, as mentioned by both Hombre and Dan-Pa with their earlier Goldens. But Mike has commended the new tone seperation on the Golden UMax and stated his preference for this tone audio setup (apparently even over the Pantera) in his quest for jewelry --presumably even in heavy trash areas. So, it would seem that the latest Golden UMax with a Manual Ground Balance and the moveable Notch Accept/Reject features of the Pantera, and a switch control for choosing between the notch-delineated 2-tones of the Pantera and the latest 4-tone setup, would be a real winner. Could it be done and still competively priced -- or am I asking (dreaming) too much? Such are the musings that occur during our long winters.
Thanks for all the comments on the Pantera , Golden Umax, and Vaquero. They gave me a few other thoughts on these units and wondered what others thought.
The Pantera's Notch features (Accept and Reject) are unique in the Tesoro Line, as well as was its moveability across the whole discrimination scale and its utility for setting the boundary between high and low tones for audio id. Those features are really useful in dealing with trash laden areas, especially when seeking gold jewelry and small silver rings.
Never having any Tesoro experience except the Pantera ( I have other brands), I can only imagine what the audio babble would be like with 4 tones in trash laden areas, as mentioned by both Hombre and Dan-Pa with their earlier Goldens. But Mike has commended the new tone seperation on the Golden UMax and stated his preference for this tone audio setup (apparently even over the Pantera) in his quest for jewelry --presumably even in heavy trash areas. So, it would seem that the latest Golden UMax with a Manual Ground Balance and the moveable Notch Accept/Reject features of the Pantera, and a switch control for choosing between the notch-delineated 2-tones of the Pantera and the latest 4-tone setup, would be a real winner. Could it be done and still competively priced -- or am I asking (dreaming) too much? Such are the musings that occur during our long winters.