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I am a DFX user right now and am getting an XS on Monday as a second machine. Hunting primarily by different tones will be a whole new world to me, the way I have my DFX set up now all targets give the same solid tone and I use the VDI screen to get an idea of the type of target I am going to dig. Can any of you guys give me some pointers that will help me on this huge learning curve. Also any settings that help to start out would be appreciated. And please don't laugh but are you guys really finding coins at 12-14", if so I may need a new shovel (-;P HH
 
Hopefully you bought it from Joe(NJ), he will get you pointed in the right direction. As far as coins 12-14" deep being found, I'd say "right". On the beach is one thing, those depths are obtainable. Coins quarter size and larger might be found at those depths while land hunting, but you'll have a lot of birthdays between those finds. Dimes, nickles, and pennies at over 8" are tough enough finds and they'll be your most common coin finds. When I see the depths claimed by some, I think, "Boy, he spends a lot of time in the bathroom alone" , HH
 
Hi Gary,
Got to get back out to see you again and try beach hunting again. was a great time.
Anyway the 12-14 inch depth I can beleive at certain places under certian conditions, but would you beleive I have another Minelab dealer 35 miles from me that claims he is getting dimes at 22 inches and 12-14 all the time?? Talk about letting people down when they accualy use a Explorer.This dealer must live in the bathroom too.
The Explorer is a great detector, but it alone will not find the finds we are seeing posted. The person using this detector has to learn its language and be patient with it, then they too will be finding these great finds, but not 22 inches on a dime. The best I have done on a dime is 10-11 max with the right conditions on land hunting.
Rick
 
a good friend said once, maybe welded to the top of a volkswagon <IMG SRC="/forums/images/wink.gif" BORDER=0 ALT=";)">
Ray ~
 
Many of my finds have been in the 9 to 11 inch class. Others will comment. I know a 6 inch silver dime sounds almost too loud and may get skipped if you're cherry picking. What about the rest of you on depth?
Guvner..
 
at those depths by people with Explorer experience. I'd even say a deep copper coin is easier to pick off because of it's halo, than silver with all other things being equal. The end result of a hunter having the coin is more important than, how deep it was. Experienced Explorerites would all agree, 6/7 inch coins isn't even considered "sporting finds", well maybe half dimes. Like the Guv said, let's hear it dudes. Jim Y, Mike M, Golddigger, etc, we'd all value from your experience, HH
 
over the last few days.I just can't get over it.
Every time I find something at the beaches that I have been searching lately, which are being severly washed away at the momment, due to the start of our winter and searching in that newly exposed deeper old compact hard layer with seems more rusty iron laden and what looks like layered black sand strata that one might find at that newly exposed depth, you really can start to appreciate what Explorer is doing. It finds coins and other objects that have been there a long time very deep.
The depth of some of silver and copper coin finds along with some other non ferrous junk at some of the parks we hunt continue to impress.
Some of the silver three penny(thr'pence) pieces that are about the size if not smaller than the american Lincoln cent or the six pence(slightly larger), are being detected by me about 14 inches in a red sticky clay that we have waited for to get into at the beginning of this Southern Hemisphere winter which has so far been VERY wet.
The summer drys some of the soil types in some of our parks to a very solid concrete type mass which is very difficult if not impossible to dig descreetly.
So yeah, depth is very good and the ability to detect deep in what are otherwise adverse soil conditions to many other detectors is REALLY good. We have been able to revisit areas,(apart from the beach which is always changing and offering new possibilities), that have been supposedly hunted out and get lots more good targets out of them.
That is really the fun part of detecting for me I say.It has got to be fun first and it really is a lot of fun using the Explorer or else why go detecting?
David Di
The HARDNOSE
 
here is the link to the Explorer forum where you can post pictures of your finds.
Ray ~
 
The explorer is certainly capable of finding coins at the 15 inch range, as I have done it myself. However the ground your hunting as well as the coil size is going to affect how deep you can get.. I have found a few large cents in that range but it dont happen often. I have gotten quite a few penny/dime size coins in the 10-12 inch range, but mostly with the stock coil in fairly iron free ground. As soon as you add iron into the equation it gets cut quite far down.. I have been in high iron areas where your lucky to see a target an inch deep, but for the most part in normal long gone homestead type sites 8 inches seems to be on the fringes of detection. Also I almost always use a smaller coil than the stock, and I do believe I am getting better depth with them than the stock because of those conditions I hunt, but I also know for a fact the stock can get deeper than they can in clean ground.. I have hunted some high mineralized ground where the limit seemed to be around 8 inches with stock coil.. but on the other hand, most of the other machines couldnt get past 3 incheson the same type target.. If your planning on salt water beach I truely believe a 20 inch coin sized target is very possible in the right hands, and even in the wrong hands a 12 inch coin in a clean beach should be easy.. If you have some parks with deep coins I think you are going to be pleasantly suprised whts left after you learn it a bit, but just remember your not going to get killer depth in all situations, but you still should get better depth than those that use other machines in the same area.. then again there is always a situation where another machine might be better suited. I just go with the odds, the Minelabs FBS/BBS just are alot more versatile in the amount of different type ground they excell in, and I have yet to find a site they wont work at least close to great so it is what I use <IMG SRC="/forums/images/smile.gif" BORDER=0 ALT=":)">
 
It has surprised me how I have found my deepest finds with my X5 & ML 8, right there with my WOT and X12. It's always aggravated the hell out of me, wondering if there where coins out of reach, but I guess even when a machine comes out that will pick off 10 to 12" dimes with ease, I'll still wonder that, HH
 
The best tip, I can give you is slooooow down from the swing Speed of the DFX.. Dig ALL repeatable signals. Hunt in Iron Mask mode at --10. By digging all repeatable signals you will more quickly learn what your machine is telling you. Later on .. dig the "iffy signals" most will be junk but some not. Also, if you get a good signal and then after digging to some depth, you lose the signal.. Have faith.. IT IS IN THERE.. don't leave the coin in the hole. ONE more thing.. take your time pinpointing and learn how to pinpoint with the minelab which is different from pinpointing with any other make machine. But with practice is very accurate. If you or anyone else has any more questions please email me or ask away on these forums as the folks here are terrific.
Jim Vokes NY
jvokes@frontiernet.net
 
Very Informative....I'm going downstate to get my Explorer in the morning. ( Hopefully with an X-1 Probe if there are any in stock)
I'm gonna take these 11" dime stories with a grain of salt until I see it for myself. There's a 18-pt buck running around here that would dress out at around 285 lbs, too......but danged if I've ever seen it hanging from anyone's buck pole!
At any rate, I'm not gonna pay much attention to the depth scale on the Explorer because from what I can see from watching one in action a few times it lies to you quite a bit, but so do a lot of other machines so I won't fault it too hard for that.
All things considered, I look forward to some great finds once I finish the learning process on this machine. I'm just gonna try out the 10.5 incher a bit but the bulk of my initial learning will be running the 8-incher I think.
My current machine is a Shadow X2 w/ stock 7" coil, a dime at 6" is pushing it to the limits. My good finds this year with it have been a 1901 IH, a '42-S Merc, a 62-D Rosie, and about 20 wheaties.....I hope to do way better than that soon with my new Musical Aussie Beep-Stick after an honest learning effort.
 
The smaller the object the more deep it can appear. The bigger the coil the smaller the object (deeper) can appear. I've run over a hole with a stock coil that read a certain depth and a 15 inch coil and got another deeper reading. Both were wrong when it was small brass rivet around 5 inches. The rivet was very tiny and did what tiny non ferrous objects do... act deep...
Good hunting... Guvner..
 
Dexie Detectors is comming out with a cd that should be a big help with the Exployer. It should be available around May 20
 
I have had some good sounds and then dig a hole. Once I dig the sound goes away and I cant find the object even after I check outside the hole. What actually hapeens to the sound. This does not happen to often. I am finally learning how to pinpoint only second time out. I found a 45 merc on Sunday.
 
Sometimes the Minelabs don't hear so deep in air. It is pretty important to purchase the S1 Probe or another electronic probe to use when you lose the signal. But most of all have faith that it is in there. dig deeper and wider.. To dig wider, I dig at an angle from the top of the hole which widens the bottom but not the top of the hole.
good luck..
 
Depends, it could have been an iron false or hot rock as they generally disappear after digging just a little, if your digging quite deep 6-8 inches before it disappears it can be a good target being masked by the air void.. one thing for sure if your getting a good signal at first theres something down there, its just a matter of knowing an iron false or hot rock sound from a positive response.. it will come with some hours of hunting time.. iron and hot rocks tend to give a higher pinging tone than coins and hit the 31 area on digital.. trust your ears if the target is repeating solid and sounds good from at least 2 angles keep digging till you find whats making it sing.. the X1 probe will greatly increase your finding and greatly reduce your digging time for those iffy ones
 
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