Meter readings

[Dang]

Do you who have the Digisearch 180 meter find that most trash targets readings bounce around, and the good targets readings are solid for the most part?

 

[adam in cal]

Not at all, the round tabs seem to lock up real nicely and I usually see them at 161 or 167 the new square tabs seem to lock up at 171 and the older square tabs do move a bit but tend to be in the low 140 range with some slight movement between 142 /144 , I see gum wrappers lock up on a solid 86 and ketchup packets seem to fall at 121 , now they can vary a bit , but these are the numbers that I always see. there is other junk as well and I cant remember it all, the mickeys big mouth and natural light big bottle caps seem to always be 179 with absolutely no bounce, the key is the tones though, It is quite conceivable that all of those number I mention could in fact be shared with that of a good target but it is the tones that give you the most info. when I hit a new spot I like to dig some '' warm up junk '' to see what I am up against, one thing to me that sounds a lot like gold is them little foil lids and they seem to wanna be right at 91 . another thing I can be tricked by is the beaver tail when it is deep and crushed or twisted and they seem to love the 131 number, nickles can be bouncy too and I have dug nickles as high as 158 but they have a very distinct sound so in most cases you can tell a nickel with a fair amount of ease. I good bit of advice I was told was to remember is that nickles read different when you switch bands , in band 2 the nickles are fairly consistently seen at 145 but in band 1 they read higher by a few numbers and I find this true for square tabs as well. The thing to remember is the meter is just a tool to help you decipher what you are hearing a little better, do not handcuff yourself into only digging certain numbers listen carefully to the tones being put out as you pass over the target and at that point glance down at the meter and see what it is doing, because some targets depending on how long they have been in or how they are sitting in the ground can indeed not show the ''typical numbers'', It really is all about the tones but the meter is a real nice tool and it coupled with the tones makes digging junk almost a non issue. this is not to say I never dig junk because I dig a ton, simply because I get curious. 99 percent of the time I have the feeling it is going to be junk. The junk I tend to always dig is foil based junk due to the fact it has that super low goldish sound and I would hate to miss a good ring.

 

[Art (NWOH)]

What the meter does has a lot to do with exactly what kind of trash you are talking about, and which coil you are using.

 

[Rick(ND)]

I can see where you have mastered the Sovereign as you are seeing those little things that make a difference. One other thing I am going to mention is that when a target gets deeper and weaker sounding you will see more bounce in numbers and some will not even read correctly or if they do it may only be for a split second, but you will tell that the tones is trying to climb and it is repeatable signal when you do the wiggle over just that area.
I bet you see now too that most of these tones you hear mean nothing to you, but when you hear just the right one will stop you in your track and you will swing over it a few times and see it is a good one.

Good Post Adam.

Rick

 

[Dang]

[quote adam in cal]Not at all, the round tabs seem to lock up real nicely and I usually see them at 161 or 167 the new square tabs seem to lock up at 171 and the older square tabs do move a bit but tend to be in the low 140 range with some slight movement between 142 /144 , I see gum wrappers lock up on a solid 86 and ketchup packets seem to fall at 121 , now they can vary a bit , but these are the numbers that I always see. there is other junk as well and I cant remember it all, the mickeys big mouth and natural light big bottle caps seem to always be 179 with absolutely no bounce, the key is the tones though, It is quite conceivable that all of those number I mention could in fact be shared with that of a good target but it is the tones that give you the most info. when I hit a new spot I like to dig some '' warm up junk '' to see what I am up against, one thing to me that sounds a lot like gold is them little foil lids and they seem to wanna be right at 91 . another thing I can be tricked by is the beaver tail when it is deep and crushed or twisted and they seem to love the 131 number, nickles can be bouncy too and I have dug nickles as high as 158 but they have a very distinct sound so in most cases you can tell a nickel with a fair amount of ease. I good bit of advice I was told was to remember is that nickles read different when you switch bands , in band 2 the nickles are fairly consistently seen at 145 but in band 1 they read higher by a few numbers and I find this true for square tabs as well. The thing to remember is the meter is just a tool to help you decipher what you are hearing a little better, do not handcuff yourself into only digging certain numbers listen carefully to the tones being put out as you pass over the target and at that point glance down at the meter and see what it is doing, because some targets depending on how long they have been in or how they are sitting in the ground can indeed not show the ''typical numbers'', It really is all about the tones but the meter is a real nice tool and it coupled with the tones makes digging junk almost a non issue. this is not to say I never dig junk because I dig a ton, simply because I get curious. 99 percent of the time I have the feeling it is going to be junk. The junk I tend to always dig is foil based junk due to the fact it has that super low goldish sound and I would hate to miss a good ring.[/quote]
.....Oh. Okay. Thank you....

 

[Dang]

Art. I still only have the stock ten inch coil. I just picked up the meter after Christmas. I guess maybe your asking is becuase I might be scanning over more then one target. The trash Im talking about is the dreaded sherded soda can. That trash seems to cause the meter to fly all over the place.

 

[Art (NWOH)]

That will do it. So will other large garbage.

As you sweep the coil, the detector will see variations in conductivity across the target. Smaller targets have closer to a singular conductivity, while larger things of distorted shape will have a lot of variation in conductivity.
Since the audio and meter are tied together, when the tone changes then so does the meter.
A coil with a narrow field of detection (good target separation) will see a lot of variation in target conductivity, while a coil with a wider field of detection (less target separation) will see less variation.

With some coils, two different objects can sound so much alike that you need to look at the meter to tell what it is..... Other coils can give a distinctly different sound pattern between different shape objects of similar conductivity. Example....A big piece of can slaw or a big wad of foil has a very nasty sound, but a ring or bullet sounds smooth . Both may be of a generally similar overall conductivity, but you can sure tell a difference in the sound pattern. The more variation in the sound pattern, the worse it sounds. If the variations in conductivity are large enough and if the meter is fast enough then you will see it on the meter.

The meter trys to reflect the audio. Or the audio trys to reflect the meter. They work together.

You should see the sound patterns dance on a XS2 550 meter.

HH