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Manual Vs Auto

daddyflea

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I was reading a post where the poster was setting his Etrac to auto then after the Auto +3 got a good reading, he set the Etrac to Manual and continued to hunt. Was these actions to make the response quicker or does the Auto just detract from depth a little?
 
It isn't really a matter of Manual vs Auto but a matter of using two different tools to get the job done better.

In my opinion, it depends on the ground and conditions whether I use Manual or Auto. Manual has the better depth, when conditions are light minerals. Auto has the more reliable response in bad ground. Manual runs all three channels at the same level you have set. That works great for depth when conditions are right. Auto take the strongest response from the three channels and uses it's response to determine a sound and VDI. I see it as a more reliable vs depth. I run in our city park in Auto until I hit a questionable signal. Then I'll switch to manual, only after I've isolated the questionable target, to try and get a better response.

I've tried manual in our city park and dug nothing but deed rusted iron that sound good. Auto seem far more reliable.
 
Southwind said:
It isn't really a matter of Manual vs Auto but a matter of using two different tools to get the job done better.

In my opinion, it depends on the ground and conditions whether I use Manual or Auto. Manual has the better depth, when conditions are light minerals. Auto has the more reliable response in bad ground. Manual runs all three channels at the same level you have set. That works great for depth when conditions are right. Auto take the strongest response from the three channels and uses it's response to determine a sound and VDI. I see it as a more reliable vs depth. I run in our city park in Auto until I hit a questionable signal. Then I'll switch to manual, only after I've isolated the questionable target, to try and get a better response.

I've tried manual in our city park and dug nothing but deed rusted iron that sound good. Auto seem far more reliable.

X2,except using the Explorer....Auto in any form seems to be more reliable,it usually is what it says it is. Manual,with bad soil or a lot of close targets....good luck. But experiment and see....Ill start running Manual in places that are used up and I don't have anything to lose by trying to get deeper. When hunting public land we are all in a very similar boat...pick through trash,go deeper or drive away. Have you been running the Fast Option?
 
IDXMonster said:
Southwind said:
It isn't really a matter of Manual vs Auto but a matter of using two different tools to get the job done better.

In my opinion, it depends on the ground and conditions whether I use Manual or Auto. Manual has the better depth, when conditions are light minerals. Auto has the more reliable response in bad ground. Manual runs all three channels at the same level you have set. That works great for depth when conditions are right. Auto take the strongest response from the three channels and uses it's response to determine a sound and VDI. I see it as a more reliable vs depth. I run in our city park in Auto until I hit a questionable signal. Then I'll switch to manual, only after I've isolated the questionable target, to try and get a better response.

I've tried manual in our city park and dug nothing but deed rusted iron that sound good. Auto seem far more reliable.

X2,except using the Explorer....Auto in any form seems to be more reliable,it usually is what it says it is. Manual,with bad soil or a lot of close targets....good luck. But experiment and see....Ill start running Manual in places that are used up and I don't have anything to lose by trying to get deeper. When hunting public land we are all in a very similar boat...pick through trash,go deeper or drive away. Have you been running the Fast Option?

I rarely run Fast just too noisey
 
Manual seems to get people a bit more depth. I used manual when I first got my machine but it was giving me a lot of falsing, so I switched to Auto +3. Still a bit of chatter, next time I will turn it down a bit more and see if I can get it figured out. Always interesting to tool around with your machine, aside from the hunting itself
 
I seem to get the really deep targets running my sensitivity at 23 so when I see the sensitivity dip below 23 while hunting in auto I will switch over to manual to keep it at 23. A lot of times my +3 auto setting will be running around 19 when I have it in auto. I would rather deal with a few false signals than miss the deep targets.
 
cz70pro said:
I seem to get the really deep targets running my sensitivity at 23 so when I see the sensitivity dip below 23 while hunting in auto I will switch over to manual to keep it at 23. A lot of times my +3 auto setting will be running around 19 when I have it in auto. I would rather deal with a few false signals than miss the deep targets.

After a lot of Tinkering this weekend I found that my Depth actually increased and my Finds went up after I decreased my Auto +3. When your Detector starts getting a lot of False signals and Chattering you are too hot. Back off to Auto +1 or Auto +2. Your Signals (Good Ones) will get much stronger and clear. You will get more ID depth (Less Falsing) and you will make more finds because there will be no question about a False Signal or a good one. This is like running low beams in the Fog. You may not see great but at least you are not totally blind.
 
daddyflea said:
cz70pro said:
I seem to get the really deep targets running my sensitivity at 23 so when I see the sensitivity dip below 23 while hunting in auto I will switch over to manual to keep it at 23. A lot of times my +3 auto setting will be running around 19 when I have it in auto. I would rather deal with a few false signals than miss the deep targets.

After a lot of Tinkering this weekend I found that my Depth actually increased and my Finds went up after I decreased my Auto +3. When your Detector starts getting a lot of False signals and Chattering you are too hot. Back off to Auto +1 or Auto +2. Your Signals (Good Ones) will get much stronger and clear. You will get more ID depth (Less Falsing) and you will make more finds because there will be no question about a False Signal or a good one. This is like running low beams in the Fog. You may not see great but at least you are not totally blind.

I agree if I am getting a ton of false or iron targets it is best to back off the Sensitivity and slow your swing. I was talking about running in an area with generally normal conditions. It all depends on where you are hunting.

This past week I tried doing one 40 foot long strip at the park with Auto on +3 with it running 19 on Sensitivity. I went super slow (open screen with just a few bumps up on the Fe numbers to get rid of small nails) with 50% overlaps and dug every Co TDI over 8. I then went back and hunted in Manual 23 going the same direction and over the very same ground and got 5 good targets (one small copper ring 7 inches, one deep wheat, one piece of deep lead and two deep big iron targets) that I had missed running at Auto 19. It was a bit noisier running manual but it wasn't too bad and that wheat could have easily been a deep dime.
 
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