MAKRO RACER UNDERWATER

[MAKRO RACER POWER]

Yes yes now I can say no any machine can make a challenge with makro racer machine because with my experience I'm sure the waterproof racer it will be great than other machine's underwater because it can easily find any small or big Target under the ground . thanks MAKRO racer company so I'm ready for selling my Excalibur 2 ha ha

 

[UtahRich]

Since Dilek posted the Christmas photo, the question I've been asking myself is 3 meters? or 30 meters? VLF, PI, or will there be a new Multi-Freq to pick from?

Best Holiday Wishes to all of you.

Rich -

 

[pax]

Looks like MInelab got to it first,Nokta Makro could at least give us some info on the new machine

 

[Low-Boy/LCPM]

It is a needed unit for their lineup of machines...We will see a new top of the line detector that will replace the impact in a couple of years..How old will I be by then???

 

[OregonGregg]

Looks like MInelab got to it first,Nokta Makro could at least give us some info on the new machine

Ya ML came out with yet another waterproof machine.........but It's not a Nokta/Makro machine. I'll wait and get the Makro/Nokta waterproof machine, given the performance, these machines have had....especially in dense iron/rusted tin/trashy environments. I haven't seen a ML machine yet that didn't fall flat on its _____ when confronted with a dense iron/trashy environment.

 

[pax]

Yes i think i will wait for the new nokta makro also, i have the impact to start learning in Boise and surrounding mountains

 

[OregonGregg]

Hi Pax, didn't realize you are in the Boise area. You should plan on joining us for the outing in April that will be held in this area ( about 1 hour west of you) The outings are fun and will give you a chance to give the Impact machine a good work out. If you haven't already, email Monte ( monte@stinkwaterwells.com) and tell him to put you on the WTHO outings list.


7th WTHO

Based out of Vale, Oregon

Thur. April 26th thru Sun. April 29th

Ghost towns to hunt include: ‘Lost’, ‘Lonesome Arch’ and ‘Lone Tree’

 

[pax]

sounds like a good time

 

[Monte]

I've coordinated six Welcome-to-Hunt Outings [size=small](two a year for the past three years)[/size] so far and we have three scheduled for 2018. The first one, our 7th WTHO, will be here in Eastern Oregon with our 'base camp' so-to-speak being here in Vale. Presently we have three gold mining era ghost towns we'll be hunting, and the Outing spans the four days Oregon Gregg mentioned.

Relic Hunting old forlorn town sites has been pretty good to me since I worked my first one, a Northern Utah town I named 'Twin Flats,' since May of 1969. I still mainly Coin Hunted but did work old places until we got better detectors for my preferred hunt sites in July of '83, and for the 34+ years now my primary detecting time is devoted to Relic Hunting ghost towns, state stops, logging camps and towns, pioneer and military encampments, etc. Naturally these types of sites can get thinned out a bit, but with patience and using a good detector and proper search coil, a person can pout in some time of slow and methodical detecting and find some 'keepers. They are never 'worked out,' just thinned out a little over time.

On our 1st WTHO in May of 2015 I called my good hunting buddies in Utah and invited them to come and join us on our Outing in Northern Nevada. When I told them were we were going, naming the three main town sites, they told me I was nuts because they were "all worked out" and we wouldn't find anything. They said they hadn't been there in maybe ten years because there was nothing left. All I could do was grin and think about the detectors they used and how things used to be. He doesn't use a detector I would recommend to anyone for hunting iron infested ghost towns, and while she does, she also can get a little impatient at times. Trust me.

These were some of the towns we used to hunt a lot back in the latter '80s and during the '90s, but in the more recent 12-15 years they didn't produce for them so they considered them "worked out." They used to give up quite a few old coins, trade tokens and other desired small 'keepers' back-in-the-day, but they have been hunted more through the years and things have changed, but the potential was there. So, my friends didn't make the Outing because .... in their minds .... there just wasn't much left out there to be found. Thin pickings.

Imagine their surprised expressions when I let them know how folks had done on our 4-day WTHO. The two oldest coins were an 1854 Larger Cent and 1854 Seated Liberty Half-Dime. There were two Barber Halves found and both Barber and Seated Liberty Dimes and Quarters, Indian Head Cents, Trade-Tokens, and all sorts of neat stuff. We included these same towns with others on our 2nd, 3rd, 4th and 5th WTHO's into Nevada .... and they all continued to produce some nice finds.

The 6th WTHO this past June was here in Oregon at the sites we'll be hunting in just four months, the last Thursday thru Sunday in April, and it was also a 'fun time' and a 'successful event' for everyone. The oldest coin find yet from any of our WTHO's was made there by Darby H. [size=small](who lives over your way in Idaho)[/size] which is an 1836 Capped Bust Dime. There were a lot of other nice finds made, but it's just a matter of being patient and putting in the time and effort with a decent detector and coil, then hope good fortune comes your way.

As Gregg mentioned, just drop me an e-mail with your Name, Mailing Address, Phone Number and contact E-Mail and I'll add you to the WTHO Contact List. I should be sending out another announcement and info regarding the three upcoming outings in April and May in 2018. We have averaged 17 to 25 people attending each Outing, coming from Arizona, California, Colorado, Idaho, Illinois, Nevada, Oregon, Utah and Washington. Come on over and join a bunch of great people!

Monte

 

[Low-Boy/LCPM]

Are home base a camp out sight or do some stay in a hotel? and the hunts are on open land not fed land...thanks

 

[cjc]

Very very exciting!
cjc

 

[pax]

Thanks guys .i need to talk to my boss about 4 days off

 

[Monte]

Thanks guys .i need to talk to my boss about 4 days off

Let him/her know that they ought to take a relaxing break in life as well, grant you the four days off and take some time off as well. They can come along with you and enjoy the adventure of a Welcome-to-Hunt Outing. I am sure I can, or Oregon Gregg can, provide him/her with a detector and help them with pointers while they also enjoy this great sport and meet some terrific folks.

Monte

 

[Monte]

Are home base a camp out sight or do some stay in a hotel?

My reference to a 'base camp' refers to the nearest town that has motel and RV Park facilities. Usually there is also the opportunity for anyone to camp at one or more of the Outing sites, either under-the-stars, in a tent, or maybe some can accommodate a trailer or even a luxurious motor home. None of the ghost towns have outdoor plumbing, however. In the case of our 2018 WTHO's, they are as follows:

7th WTHO
Based out of Vale, Oregon
Thur. April 26th thru Sun. April 29th
Ghost towns to hunt include: ‘Lost’, ‘Lonesome Arch’ and ‘Lone Tree’
You are naturally welcome to arrive on Wednesday. Vale as at least one motel, and a pretty decent RV Park. If you plan to camp at or near the townsites we will be searching, ‘Lonesome Arch’ is the more accommodating for room for maybe up to three camp trailers or RV’s. We will be able to coordinate working any of the three locations with others who participate so as not to crowd just one site, and if you haven’t been there in the past, trust me, there is ample room to roam around detecting.

Last outing we also had a get-together at the Vale City Park covered picnic bowery on Saturday evening as some folks wanted to travel home on Sunday while others wanted to do some detecting. That meant heading back down to Vale just a little earlier on Saturday, but I’ll be down there early to make sure things are set-up for our picnic. It will also be a fun time for each of us to display some of the trash and treasures we find up to that point, share some relaxing discussion time, and introduce ourselves to others. Let them know where we are from, what detector(s) we use, how long we have been enjoying the metal detecting sport, etc.

For those who want to do more detect6ing on Sunday, we still have the three gold mining ghost town sites to visit, or Gregg Z. & I will maybe have one or two shorter-duration hunt sites closer to Vale.


8th WTHO
Based out of Wells, Nevada
Thur. May 17th thru Mon. May 21st
At least 6 Ghost Towns to hunt.
Wells has several motels and a couple of RV Parks. Some might want to locate out of Montello for a day or so at their small motel to be closer to 3 of the oldest townsites, but it is cheaper to stay in Wells for a motel or for food or for gas. I had considered starting this on Friday and stretching through Monday, but some participants can’t make both outings so I went back to Thursday as a start date. It is extended an extra day, however, for those who maybe plan to attend the 9th Outing in Tonopah and this will give us an extra day to search these locations before we make the drive south to Tonopah where, I am sure, quite a few people will be arriving on Wednesday or Thursday for their annual planned trip there. That would allow us to be close, then use Tuesday or Wednesday to make the travel from Wells opt Tonopah.

I know, I know … some are thinking we have hunted some of these towns on two trips in 2015, two in 2016 and once this year, and the others only on our last trip and the rainier one down there the year before. But once again, go back to the ahrps.org website and look back in the Relic / Old Site Hunting Forum and you’ll see reports of some really exciting finds folks have made from each of the towns on various outings in 2015, ’16 and ‘17.

As we did on the last trip here this year and plan to do in the future, we will have a group get-together on Saturday evening, the 19th, in Wells. The location will be announced to those who are attending. It will be a relaxing social time to have a picnic or dine out, to be planned, and we can get to know each other better and show off some of the interesting finds we have made to that point. It will still leave two more Outing days to add to our ‘keeper kollection’ before that Outing is over.


9th WTHO
Based out of Tonopah, Nevada
Thur. May 24th thru Mon. May 28th … which includes Memorial Day Weekend
Ghost town to hunt includes: The Tonopah ‘dumps’ and ???

For me, I get to stay at home here in Vale, but I'll tow my camp trailer to the RV parks in Wells and Tonopah.

Remember, the WTHO's are open to anyone and there are no membership dues or participation fee. All anyone has to do is get the information to me for the WTHO Contact List, which is kept confidential, and they will get the e-mailed updates about the outings. I do want to make it clear that in the future, if I am able to gain access to a worthy site on private property where the owner wants some amount for compensation, then that amount will be broken down for each individual to participate, but so far, there are no issues or concerns about site access costs.

... and the hunts are on open land not fed land...thanks

Well, let me explain it this way.

• First, I am not in California and I don't worry about being bothered by a lot of liberal-minded authorities for no good reason whatsoever.

• Second, I have been detecting many of the sites in Nevada, Oregon and Utah occasionally since '69, and very frequently especially since '83 and have never been bothered by anyone. Some sites are on state or federal land, or maybe portions of them, but the bulk of them are on private land, a lot of it owned by farmers and ranchers. Periodically I have been asked if anyone was finding anything interesting on their private property, and also asked if everyone is having a good time. I guess they are just different folks where I live and travel.

• Third, I pay taxes, both state and federal. Therefore, I, and you and all of us are 'part-owners' of Forest Service and BLM and State Property and all of these areas are maintained for public recreation. I go hunting, I go fishing, I go four-wheeling, I can go look for attractive rocks or around here go get thunder eggs, and I also enjoy metal detecting ... all of which fall under the category of 'recreation.'

• Fourth, any concern about government protection would really be a point of concern if a site was protected by ARPA, and that has been so blown out of intention and misapplied that it's a sad case for the officiators. Besides, for a site to be 'protected' in the first place it has to be intact and of 'archaeological significance' and most of these sites aren't, and have been altered or destroyed by the UPRR or SPRR or smaller RR outfits long ago or up to this very day, as well as by county or state for road grading or rerouting, farming and/or ranching activities, and most have seen a lot of metal detecting and digging and even screening for over half a century. The 'bottle craze' from 1955 to 1959 puts site activity by 'recreationalists' dating back over 60 years.

So, my philosophy is quite simple. All of the sites we visit have been worked many times over for over half-a-century without any concerns, by visitors, such as most of us, or by 'locals' who also enjoy recreational metal detecting [size=small](and some 'locals are also part of our group of participants)[/size]. Anyone who has made any of our WTHO's the past three years can tell you they are fun, with good finds made and great people in attendance, and without any concerns about our visits. Any like-thinking serious Hobbyist or Avid Detectorist is welcome to join in the experiences, and if anyone trembles in their boots about attending, well ... they can just stay home, coin hunt the local tot lot, then go to the ahrps.org site under Relic/Old Site Hunting and read about the results.

Come on up and join us! Just four months from now we'll be wrapping up our 2nd day afield and it will be interesting to see what everyone is finding and her their stories. Four months fr5om tomorrow, Saturday, I'll host a late afternoon / evening picnic at the park to conclude Day #3 when we can introduce ourselves, tell where we came from, and show off whatever interesting things we have found. On Sunday, the last day, we can either hunt the three towns mentioned above [size=small](but don't try to find these on a map or in a book because they are my assigned names)[/size] or 'Oregon Gregg' and I might have an additional site or two for us to visit.

Monte

 

[Low-Boy/LCPM]

I think what I would like to do with you guys is when someone has land that has history on it, pay and hunt. There is a person back east that does the same thing and I have some great relics from the civil war that I would not find it good old Calif.

 

[Monte]

I think what I would like to do with you guys is when someone has land that has history on it, pay and hunt. There is a person back east that does the same thing and I have some great relics from the civil war that I would not find it good old Calif.

I have put in time working wide-open areas in the past when trying to isolate specific areas where there was human activity and only a general area was referred to, which required ample time to cover an area to find the specific location. Most of that was done when I was younger and healthier and could use larger-size coils for coverage on heavier detectors than we use today.

Most of the old ghost town sites we hunt on our WTHO's are known to exist, but are not the photographic types of old places with a lot of standing buildings and scenic stuff for photographs. Instead they are easily driven past and look like this gold mining era townsite that got started in 1863/64:

This is looking down at the site of 'Lone Tree' which is one of my assigned names and not the actual name of the townsite.

And if you look above the pickup, over the hill and down into the draw near the dark tree/bush, you would be very close to where Ray S. made his great find on our 6th WTHO this past June, which is a CW Era military buckle shown here [size=small](after being cleaned up)[/size]:

Often I will rename sites I like to hunt so I don't spread the word of where I go. Sometimes a name has no physical reference to indicate the site, such as my all-time favorite Utah ghost town I named 'Twin Flats', or one of our Oregon Outing ghost towns we call 'Lost.' Other times there might be a give-away to the site, such as another Outing site for our April WTHO I call 'Lonesome Arch' which was derived from the old stone arch that remains as shown here in a photo by Vern B.:

Here's another photo, taken by Oregon Gregg, of the wasteland of what was one 'Lone Tree', although from this angle you can't see the lonely standing tree from which we based out new title.:

Every site we arrange for out annual outings has had some significant 'history' associated with it, as I said before it's usually Railroad activity, or Gold Mining Era activity , and in some cases they were settlements that tried but just didn't succeed. There are all closer to you than making a trek 'back east' and there is no pay-to-hunt requirement. Some of the old townsites we hunt in Nevada I have been visiting off-and-on since '86 and through the years many other recreationalists have traipsed around withy detector in-hand doing what they could to try and find a keeper or two. And some locations, like those pictured, are places I have been hunting the past couple of years, with 'Lonesome Arch', the most known about and detected, being one I have been to a few times back to 1987.

I know a few people in the past who paid for a couple of those 'back east' CW Era hunts, only to realize after the fact that they were period finds, but they were also 'salted' at the location. No, they are not all like that, but there have been a couple of stinkers who found a way to make some $$$ off of them. It can happen anywhere, but our open-to-anyone / no-charge, come on out and have fun WTHO's are truly adventuresome Outings to enjoy.


June was a nice outing for Darby H., too, who made these recoveries, mainly from 'Lone Tree':

And at that time he had only been detecting for two years and had found a silver Barber Dime and a silver Seated Liberty Dime. You can imagine his surprise when he recovered this nice 10¢ piece at 'Lone Tree':

So, you and others who might be wondering what types of sites we hunt and what sort of success we might enjoy on our WTHO's, this was just a hint of our last Outing, WTHO #6, here in Eastern Oregon. Why not make plans to join a great groups of detectorists from several states and have some fun next year? 2018 starts tomorrow so make your plans now for any or all of the three upcoming Outings. Just e-mail me to get on the Contact List.

Monte

 

[OregonGregg]

Here ya go Monte, a picture of the "lone tree".

My last find for 2017 came from Lone Tree an 1867 Type 1 shield nickel. Got it with the Fors CoRe and new 9.5" x 5" coil. Looking at all these pics is sure making my cabin fever a lot worse

 

[Tom Slick]

and this is where I found my 1865 Dime on the last WTHO hunt.

 

[Monte]

as well as 'Lost' and 'Lonesome Arch.' Are you planning to make it to the April WTHO here in Eastern Oregon?

All the best of success in 2018!

Monte

 

[Cal_Cobra]

Cabin fever, a phenomena foreign to most west coasters