trying to decide which detector to buy, i know both are good, the m6 gives more info on targets, lots of coils to choose from ,the cz supposedly is great for older deeper targets but is it good for rings etc. if someone has compared both i would appreciate your opinion. thanks
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m6 or cz 3 d
- Thread starter mike_ga68
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...and you came over here to White's to ask that question?
Oh my!
I am NOT a White's user.
XLT is the model that always seems to jump out.
I have an old, absolutely hammered Fisher CZ.
Don't use it much. Too sensitive!
Tesoro is my grab n' go machine.
Silver uMax does pretty much what a detector i supposed to do.
I would advise you read everything available on the relative forums.
TONS of great anecdotal advice!
Good luck making your decision!
rmptr
Oh my!
I am NOT a White's user.
XLT is the model that always seems to jump out.
I have an old, absolutely hammered Fisher CZ.
Don't use it much. Too sensitive!
Tesoro is my grab n' go machine.
Silver uMax does pretty much what a detector i supposed to do.
I would advise you read everything available on the relative forums.
TONS of great anecdotal advice!
Good luck making your decision!
rmptr
Low-Boy/LCPM
Active member
If you are looking at the cz3 you may want to look at the F75 it has a built in CZ3 and then way more bang for the buck. I have both but the 75 is a killer machine if you relic hunt and does great at turf with lots of depth
BH-LandStar
New member
HUH??? Built in CZ3????
Low-Boy/LCPM
Active member
Yeah if you go to four tone on the F75 the F75 will gie you the same responce that the CZ3 does on old coins high tone and the next lower tone are programed like the CZ3 but you have a way better way at unmasking and speed with the DD coil. The F75 is way faster should be as deep way better in iron and trash and it has a small coil also. The CZ3 is a great machine but I had to replace it with the F75 and would never go back. The F75 is a different animal then the CZ3 so you may not like it being so chatty and it won't lock in like the CZ but it gives you way more info more bang for the buck.
If your initiation into the hobby is via the acquisition of a F-75..... then stick with it. Learn it well !!!! It will out-hunt a CZ in the relic department. It will parallel a CZ in the coins & old-coins dept........ but it is a below-average unit in the wet salt beaches. (Was never really designed as a salt unit). The CZ is far superior in the wet salt environment.
The CZ is MUCH less (audibly) fatiguing..... but is more likely to be 'masked' in nail infested areas. You'll find more coins/old coins faster with a CZ because of it's intelligible audio presentation..... but the F-75 will find more coins (overall) in a given area.... in a longer period of time. NOT that the detector is slow by any means...... but the 'human element' is slower with it's audio presentation..... NOT a fault of the detector. From Nasa's Tom's websight
If your initiation into the hobby is via the acquisition of a F-75..... then stick with it. Learn it well !!!! It will out-hunt a CZ in the relic department. It will parallel a CZ in the coins & old-coins dept........ but it is a below-average unit in the wet salt beaches. (Was never really designed as a salt unit). The CZ is far superior in the wet salt environment.
The CZ is MUCH less (audibly) fatiguing..... but is more likely to be 'masked' in nail infested areas. You'll find more coins/old coins faster with a CZ because of it's intelligible audio presentation..... but the F-75 will find more coins (overall) in a given area.... in a longer period of time. NOT that the detector is slow by any means...... but the 'human element' is slower with it's audio presentation..... NOT a fault of the detector. From Nasa's Tom's websight
littletwig
Member
Hey guys, lets not forget what the question was. For my two cents it's the M6. One of the deepest machins going and a real silver magnet. Super easy to use. Works eaqually well in surf or turf. Has 7 tone ID which, when you combine it with zero desc. and as high a sensitivity as the conditions will allow, will find those really deep old coins. Thats my story and I'm sticking to it. M6 all the way!!!
[size=large]... Always a tough decision. One question I'll ask is do you Currently have a detector and this will be to compliment it, or are you planning on owning only one detector?mike_ga68 said:
Another question is what types of sites do you plan to hunt, and what are you generally going to be hunting for?[/size]
[size=large]... If you know that then you know more than me!mike_ga68 said:
I know that I have owned both, and have used both from dealer's stock or owners units during seminars over the years.I know that the M6 is a spin-off of the MXT and has some design differences to make it appeal more to typical "coin hunters" than the MXT. It has an excellent Auto-Trac circuitry, an excellent physical package, and a versatile full range (accepting all metals) discrimination.Everyone that I have handled worked quite well.
Now, the CZ-3D is another story. It was supposedly designed to provide more audio and visual information that former CZ's, and was talked up (hyped-up, maybe ??) to be some super performer. The one I owned, and the ones I have used, stunk! Compared with Fisher's own CZ-5, and using the same coils, the CZ-3D was noisier, didn't ID as reliably, didn't get the depth, and didn't hit worth a hoot on US 5
Hi Guy's
No disrespect to anyone, but something needs to be said here.
First let me state I'm not a fancier of either the M6 or the CZ-3D. I don't use either as my personal unit.
Monte, with the 3D, a couple of things could have been out with it. First, it could have had something wrong with it, and when I say wrong that also includes poor setup from the factory. The other is you were using it for a site it was not designed to detect in. I know this sounds strange, give me a minute, I'll explain.
On the not working properly, it could have been a mechanical, or an electrical problem with the 3D. But I wouldn't be surprised if it was poor alignment at the factory of the unit. This is a problem with them as far as it being the detector's fault. Hitting poor on nickels may be an indication it need a look at, back at the factory. CZ's are predominately very sensitive in the low conductive range, and nickels are a low conductive item.
Just as big a problem, is using it in a environment that it was not designed for. The unit was designed for operation in the enhanced mode in sites older than 1950, and including sites void of a lot of aluminum foil. This is stated by Fisher in their advertisement of the 3D. Using it for modern hunting in the enhanced mode most likely will result in not so satisfactory results.
Since being in business I have had a lot of CZ's to play with, and I have yet to find one deeper or more selective that the other, between the CZ models. Of course that is applicable if there working properly.
My apologies to the 100% Whites users for having to read a Fisher info post here.
No disrespect to anyone, but something needs to be said here.
First let me state I'm not a fancier of either the M6 or the CZ-3D. I don't use either as my personal unit.
Monte, with the 3D, a couple of things could have been out with it. First, it could have had something wrong with it, and when I say wrong that also includes poor setup from the factory. The other is you were using it for a site it was not designed to detect in. I know this sounds strange, give me a minute, I'll explain.
On the not working properly, it could have been a mechanical, or an electrical problem with the 3D. But I wouldn't be surprised if it was poor alignment at the factory of the unit. This is a problem with them as far as it being the detector's fault. Hitting poor on nickels may be an indication it need a look at, back at the factory. CZ's are predominately very sensitive in the low conductive range, and nickels are a low conductive item.
Just as big a problem, is using it in a environment that it was not designed for. The unit was designed for operation in the enhanced mode in sites older than 1950, and including sites void of a lot of aluminum foil. This is stated by Fisher in their advertisement of the 3D. Using it for modern hunting in the enhanced mode most likely will result in not so satisfactory results.
Since being in business I have had a lot of CZ's to play with, and I have yet to find one deeper or more selective that the other, between the CZ models. Of course that is applicable if there working properly.
My apologies to the 100% Whites users for having to read a Fisher info post here.
Gold Seeker
Member
Quote: Mr. Bill
"My apologies to the 100% Whites users for having to read a Fisher info post here. "
That OK Mr.Bill, what I find intriguing is that you are reading the White's forum, are you looking at a White's for the future
...Sorry, just ribbing you a little.
I own both a White's and a Fisher's product, both are excellent detectors.
Your expertise is always welcome to any forum IMHO!!
Skip
"My apologies to the 100% Whites users for having to read a Fisher info post here. "
That OK Mr.Bill, what I find intriguing is that you are reading the White's forum, are you looking at a White's for the future
...Sorry, just ribbing you a little.I own both a White's and a Fisher's product, both are excellent detectors.
Your expertise is always welcome to any forum IMHO!!
Skip
littletwig
Member
I use the 6x10 DD about 90% of the time. The ohter 10% of the time I use the 4x6 DD. I use the 4x6 in the really trashy areas. I consistantly get good signals a 7-9 inches with the 6x10, a little less depth with the 4x6.
Hi Gold Seeker
I like Whites detectors even though I am not a Whites dealer. I have lot's of Whites units in my tool box. Whites has been very helpful to me over the years. They have been very supportive of my projects over the years.
I try to look at all the forums here at Finds, one of the hats I wear is being the administrator for the forums.
I like Whites detectors even though I am not a Whites dealer. I have lot's of Whites units in my tool box. Whites has been very helpful to me over the years. They have been very supportive of my projects over the years.
I try to look at all the forums here at Finds, one of the hats I wear is being the administrator for the forums.