I havent owend a metal detector scince about 15-20 years ago. and it was a radio shack cheepy. im considering buying a vaquero, after doing some research. how much better is it than a silver umax or a cibola? as far as sensitivty and depth. im going to just be looking for pretty much any thing I can find, hopefully silver coins, jewelery .... etc. if there is not a huge advantage then maybe Ill get one of the cheaper ones. and also where can i do a little reading on how to operate these things besides the manual. The way i remember it is set the sensitivty and the ground and the thing would humm when it went over metal. I read where you listen to different tones for different metals?
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Hi cjruger, after using a Vaquero/Cibola/DeLeon/Golden uMax I am going back to a Silver uMax. It isn't that the others are bad but in my ground & the way I hunt and what I hunt for (coins/jewelry) I prefer the Silver uMax. You can not find a better detector for the price. Believe me if you try a Silver uMax you won't be disappointed. Steve.
P.S. The Silver uMax hits hard on coins & jewelry, is light & well balanced, quality constructed, fantastic discrimination, very stable, accepts different coils.
P.S. The Silver uMax hits hard on coins & jewelry, is light & well balanced, quality constructed, fantastic discrimination, very stable, accepts different coils.
Thanks, ill be considering one, I live in western NY state, the ground is varied in different locations but mostly good farming soil to shale and clay grounds. Is there a depth difference in the 2. every thing I read about the V says it goes deeper than most others models that compare to, or are below it. I just was thinking i should spend the money and get something good and that will last a long time. Thanks for the input.
[quote cjruger]Thanks, ill be considering one, I live in western NY state, the ground is varied in different locations but mostly good farming soil to shale and clay grounds. Is there a depth difference in the 2. every thing I read about the V says it goes deeper than most others models that compare to, or are below it. I just was thinking i should spend the money and get something good and that will last a long time. Thanks for the input.[/quote] Myself I didn't see much difference in depth between any of them. If you get the Vaquero you will have a detector that can be manually ground balanced if ever needed. I to live in New York, I am located in St. Lawrence County not too far from Ogdensburg,N.Y. I find that the Silver uMax does exceptionally well in my area. You can't go wrong with any Tesoro. Steve.
CJ, if your ground is varied, the GB capability of the V could be a great advantage to you.
If you are going to be doing different types of hunting... buddy hunts or even competition hunting for fun, the frequency shift would be helpful, also.
The V is a Very popular machine, for good reason.
HH
rmptr
If you are going to be doing different types of hunting... buddy hunts or even competition hunting for fun, the frequency shift would be helpful, also.
The V is a Very popular machine, for good reason.
HH
rmptr
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Read my report on Tesoro's web site or in the MDI magazine. Yes, I wrote as I field tested the unit for Tesoro. My report is 100% honest. Having used Tesoro metal detectors since 1986, I can attest they make good detectors, some of the best value's in the entire industry with the best warranty of all...lifetime! I kept my Vaquero because of it's depth over other Tesoro models and great sensitivity. I located a #4 lead shotgun pellet in VA soil while relic hunting. In the first two months of field testing, I dug more civil war buttons than my previous two years of searching. Most came off the same sites I'd been hunting. It was, in my opinion, the ability to GB and it's SENS. Can't go wrong with any Tesoro, but I would go for Vaquero #1, Cibola #2 or Silver #3. If you were advanced enough, I'd recommend the Tejon or Lobo ST, but not at this stage. If I can answer any questions, drop me an Email.
Good hunting,
David@Dixie
Good hunting,
David@Dixie
thanks for the input. im not doing any club or buddy hunts or anything like that. just looking to get a good machine. im still a little unclear about techniques in using them as far as the all metal mode and other modes. can you set it so you wont pick up ferrouse metals? do you actually listen to a constant hum and decide for your self what it is based on the change in tone? im sure once I get one in my hands it will become a little more clear. like I said the last one I had was the cheap radio shack version about 15 years ago. it still had all the adjustments but never seemed to work that great.
Hi Cjruger,
I have a Vaquero, Silver Sabre uMax, Euro Sabre, Compadre and have owned an Eldorado, Cibola
and lesser brands than Tesoro.
The Vaquero is great.
The All Metal Mode has a constant buzz that you adjust until it is quiet unough to be bairly heard.
When metal comes under the coil, the buzz will get louder and more intense. You cannot turn off
ferrouse metals, or any metals when in all metal mode. All metal is as it implies, it pick will up all
metals. The Vaquero has a wonderful all metal mode. It has two way to access the all metal mode
which is very nice. I use AM Mode a lot because it is very informative about what is in the ground.
It is also robust. It goes deep and wide. You can cover more ground. When you get a hit, check it
in the Discrimination Mode.
The Discremination Mode can dial out different metals with one of the best analog discriminators in
the industry. The Vaquero has a single tone. Sounds too simple. But don't let that fool you. I love
the single tone. My finds have gone from almost nothing to finding six gold rings this year alone.
That's just the rings. I find many more pandents and ear rings Ect than rings. All with single tone.
Before single tone Tesoro's, my jewelry finds consisted of one silver ring.
Hope you find something that suits you. It may or may not be the Vaquero. It took three tries before
I found something that worked for me. I now have four great metal detectors.
By the way, my favorite may be my cheepest. The Compadre is great and under rated. $152 brand
new with a life time warranty. How can people not try a gem like that? I don't know. Mine was just
$70 used. The best investment I've made in this hobby.
Good Luck,
Tabdog
I have a Vaquero, Silver Sabre uMax, Euro Sabre, Compadre and have owned an Eldorado, Cibola
and lesser brands than Tesoro.
The Vaquero is great.
The All Metal Mode has a constant buzz that you adjust until it is quiet unough to be bairly heard.
When metal comes under the coil, the buzz will get louder and more intense. You cannot turn off
ferrouse metals, or any metals when in all metal mode. All metal is as it implies, it pick will up all
metals. The Vaquero has a wonderful all metal mode. It has two way to access the all metal mode
which is very nice. I use AM Mode a lot because it is very informative about what is in the ground.
It is also robust. It goes deep and wide. You can cover more ground. When you get a hit, check it
in the Discrimination Mode.
The Discremination Mode can dial out different metals with one of the best analog discriminators in
the industry. The Vaquero has a single tone. Sounds too simple. But don't let that fool you. I love
the single tone. My finds have gone from almost nothing to finding six gold rings this year alone.
That's just the rings. I find many more pandents and ear rings Ect than rings. All with single tone.
Before single tone Tesoro's, my jewelry finds consisted of one silver ring.
Hope you find something that suits you. It may or may not be the Vaquero. It took three tries before
I found something that worked for me. I now have four great metal detectors.
By the way, my favorite may be my cheepest. The Compadre is great and under rated. $152 brand
new with a life time warranty. How can people not try a gem like that? I don't know. Mine was just
$70 used. The best investment I've made in this hobby.
Good Luck,
Tabdog
Well, I bought a vaquero today. it was a used one on ebay, looked and said to be in very good condition with little use. but none the less I hope to have it next week. I have been reading the instruction manual. cant wait to try it out. so your saying when you get a hit in am mode switch to disc. mode and adjust to see if it is past the iron level., so basicly you can search in am mode and just listen to the tone and decide for your self what it is or hunt in disc. mode and rule out targets with iron in them and up from there.
[quote cjruger]Well, I bought a vaquero today. it was a used one on ebay, looked and said to be in very good condition with little use. but none the less I hope to have it next week. I have been reading the instruction manual. cant wait to try it out. so your saying when you get a hit in am mode switch to disc. mode and adjust to see if it is past the iron level., so basicly you can search in am mode and just listen to the tone and decide for your self what it is or hunt in disc. mode and rule out targets with iron in them and up from there.[/quote]
so your saying when you get a hit in am mode switch to disc. mode and adjust to see if it is past the iron level.
Exactly. You can keep turning up the disc. dial in discriminate mode to where the hit (target) gets disc'd out & this will give you a very good idea of what the target will be ( this technique is called "thumbing"). Enjoy that Vaquero! Steve.
so your saying when you get a hit in am mode switch to disc. mode and adjust to see if it is past the iron level.
Exactly. You can keep turning up the disc. dial in discriminate mode to where the hit (target) gets disc'd out & this will give you a very good idea of what the target will be ( this technique is called "thumbing"). Enjoy that Vaquero! Steve.
Thanks Steve.......
Hay Cjruger,
You seem to be starting out all right.
Just remember, there are many hunting styles. There is more than one way to skin a cat.
In very trashy areas, it is hard to search in all metal because of all the responses.
It will take practice. At first dig all responses until you learn what different things sound like.
I would suggest play grounds and any easy to dig place. As you learn more you will figure
out pretty quick what coins sound like. Then you'll learn, and then forget, and then you'll learn
bundles. It seems to come in waves for me. I guess some folks are more steady. Don't matter
We all like MDing.
If you want to be successful, I believe you need to learn trash. If you know trash as well as
good targets, it is more productive. If you want jewelry, then you will have to deal with trash.
All metal detectors think small gold jewelry is trash. If you want to find it, you have to learn
how.
This forum is the best place I know of to learn about metal detecting. There is a wealth of
knowledge here and it's free and fun.
Best of Luck to you.
I hope this hobby does as much for you as it has for me,
Hay Cjruger,
You seem to be starting out all right.
Just remember, there are many hunting styles. There is more than one way to skin a cat.
In very trashy areas, it is hard to search in all metal because of all the responses.
It will take practice. At first dig all responses until you learn what different things sound like.
I would suggest play grounds and any easy to dig place. As you learn more you will figure
out pretty quick what coins sound like. Then you'll learn, and then forget, and then you'll learn
bundles. It seems to come in waves for me. I guess some folks are more steady. Don't matter
We all like MDing.
If you want to be successful, I believe you need to learn trash. If you know trash as well as
good targets, it is more productive. If you want jewelry, then you will have to deal with trash.
All metal detectors think small gold jewelry is trash. If you want to find it, you have to learn
how.
This forum is the best place I know of to learn about metal detecting. There is a wealth of
knowledge here and it's free and fun.
Best of Luck to you.
I hope this hobby does as much for you as it has for me,