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Looking for a good value reliable Detector under $300US

Coops

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Hello everyone! I am new to this forum and new to metal detecting. I recently bought a cheap and nasty detector off ebay ( chinese import)to start with.
I was wondering what is the three best detectors you would buy for under $300US?
Also could someone tell me is there much better value in buying an old well made detector or a new cheap detector with later technology??
PLEASE HELP!!
 
I've been trying out detectors for years & found that, for the most part, the main thing a lot of the newer models offer is bells & whistles. There doesn't seem to be any real increase in depth, despite all the crowing to the contrary. In fact, some detectors manufactured these days seem to have taken a step back in quality & capability. Doesn't mean I won't keep trying them out 'cause, besides being cheap, I'm an unabashed tool/detector slut. At least, being such, I've got plenty of like minded company. Get on the classified forums and buy a fully featured older detector (used) with your hard earned cash. Even a newer model that's been used a few months can go for a song. Many will tell you to get a simple unit with no TID & then move up to bigger & better things, which is how I did it. Personally, I'd say "go for the brass ring"; too many people lose interest very quickly when using the basic units. Too much trash & digging. Put a decent TID in thier hands & WHOA!! ..totally different story. Yea, yea, ID isn't perfect & I'll cruise behind them & pick up all the goodies they missed (my evil plan!!), but they will get immediate gratification & want to pursue the hobby to a greater extent. If, on the other hand you still want to buy new, go for a Garrett Ace 250. At $200 new online, it's a bargain and, from what I've gleaned, is a surprisingly capable detector & perfect for a beginner. ...Willy.
 
Go with the Ace 250 and possibly a 9 X 12 supplementary coil. It will still be under your target of $300.00. The combination will go deep and cover a fair amount of real estate with each pass.

Now if you are going into trashy parks, you might want to get the sniper coil instead of the 9 X 12 as your first accessory coil. Better to separate the trash from the goodies, but it won't cover as much ground at a time and it won't go as deep.
 
>>> Excellent question and well posed, the "V" word (value) featured prominently. Willy offered some VERY sage advice and you should save it to your files. Lets look at it closely, eh?

"I've been trying out detectors for years & found that, for the most part, the main thing a lot of the newer models offer is bells & whistles. There doesn't seem to be any real increase in depth, despite all the crowing to the contrary.
No one detector can do it all, especially in the $300 dollar range but there are some very good choices to be made (more on that momentarily). Depth is a factor of electro-physics and you cant go beyond that. You can add more gain to your circuits, but there is a trade off in stability. There is also nothing to be found if it isnt already there: NO detector can create targets for you. Where you take a detector and how you operate within it's limits is more important than the machine itself. For $300 dollars you can get all you'll need to get started.

"Get on the classified forums and buy a fully featured older detector (used) with your hard earned cash. Even a newer model that's been used a few months can go for a song."
My regrets to all the dealers, but this is more excellent advice. Most detectors in your price range made by the Big 4 are sturdy and reliable and even used are little different in function than new. I have 6 detectors right now and ALL, save one, were bought used. For a beginner, it's the best way to get started.
Who offers the best service, should it be needed, on their detectors? In my experience, it's been Garrett and Tesoro.

"Many will tell you to get a simple unit with no TID & then move up to bigger & better things, which is how I did it. Personally, I'd say "go for the brass ring"; too many people lose interest very quickly when using the basic units. Too much trash & digging. Put a decent TID in thier hands & WHOA!! ..totally different story. Yea, yea, ID isn't perfect & I'll cruise behind them & pick up all the goodies they missed (my evil plan!!), but they will get immediate gratification & want to pursue the hobby to a greater extent."
Man, Willy is a wellspring of good advice!! I couldnt agree more and have little to add. I use both, TID and non-TID detectors. Were I to buy a detector for the first time, I'd get the TID.

"If, on the other hand you still want to buy new, go for a Garrett Ace 250. At $200 new online, it's a bargain and, from what I've gleaned, is a surprisingly capable detector & perfect for a beginner."

He's right. It's all that and more. I got mine last week and it has become my right arm extension. It is sensitive(in the extreme), accurate as any detector can be and easy to swing - and therefore EZ-2-Luv.

While we're at it, lets mention tools. Youre going to need them, youll use the dickens out of them so dont skimp on them! Here's what's currently in my "possibles bag".

The Essentials (You dont need all these all the time - except for headphones - but you WILL need them ALL, sometime).
Headphones - good ones. And a spare set (the ones that came with the Ace 250). Headphone jack adapters, as needed.
Two diggers, one for shallow and one for deeper targets. In a park or on a carefully tendered lawn, DO NOT haul out your SuperMondo Crater Digger!
A sturdy probe**.
A solid, 10" flat head screwdriver.
A keyhole saw for roots.
A Relic Shovel** (only for hunting in the raw woods and fields)
A Cloth Napkin, restaurant style. Dump the dirt you pull from a hole on here, then simply pour it back in the hole when finished with target extraction.
Nail aprons, for trash and goodies.
A Fishing Vest. I have gone to this instead of aprons.
Spare batteries
Duct Tape and super glue.

Other Stuff
2 pair Gloves, rubberized
A PinPointer, picked up used
A Sand Scoop, steel, for sandy playgrounds, volleyball courts, etc.
A Plastic trowel, $.96 at WalMart, drilled out for sand sifting.
A turf/sod plugger.**
A Coin Popper.**
A Tool Pouch w/ belt.**

** = home-made tools

I carry all this stuff in a bag I got at the thrift store for $2.50

Now, as to detectors. On the used market there are tons of detectors, but allow me to caution you: stay with the Big 4: Whites, Garrett, Fisher, Tesoro.
I've owned models from each and still do. You will not suffer value with any of them. Unfortunately, I can't say that about Bounty Hunter and I wont say more about it.

Some used models I see for sale that you might condsider (keep in mind these will be TID/ID capable:

Tesoro: DeLeon
Whites: Classic IDX/IDX Pro
Fisher: CZ5/6 and 1266X (These are occasionally seen in the $300 range. Fishers command higher prices and are built like tanks. I love the 1266X and it really is a mulitpurpose machine, although it has no visual TID - it has dual DISC modes.)
Garrett: GTA1250, CXII's and CXIII's, and of course the beloved Ace 250.
Since this is a Garrett forum, I gotta recommend these. Of the 4, I'd go with the 1250 if I could find one and the 250 second. The CX's are great units, but are clunky to use - NOT SO of the other 2.
All Garrett's are easy to use and designed for years of service.

If I could only have one detector, the choice is easy: 1266X

Good luck and keep asking questions.

David
 
One thing that I've found is that, for some reason, Garrett detectors "get no respect" (pretty good Rodney Dangerfield impression, eh? Willy, my man, you still got it!!); this means that you can pick up a really good detector dirt cheap. There also seem to be less out there for sale than other brands. That should tell you something. One little tip, while I'm here, regards coin probes. I use an aluminum knitting needle thats a bit over 1/8" thick and about a foot long. It won't scratch a coin and slides into even hard ground with ease. The nice thing is that, since less force is needed to insert it, that it lets me get a good feel for what's in the ground. I also put a handle on it for ease of use. Since knitting needles seem to be made out of a better grade of aluminum, they are proportionately stiffer & can even be used to pop out the occasional shallow coin. ...Willy.
 
.... excellent idea! I'll have to get ahold of a pair and put a handle on 'em. Thanks Willy

David
 
For well under that price you can pick up a Garrett Ace 250, about the hottest seller on the market today. This is not a cheapo machine or an entry level machine but a machine that performs like a $700 detector at a price far below what one would cost.

I's loaded with hi-tech goodies and is a ball to use. It is easy to learn and use and you'll soon be finding goodies with it.

Bill
 
A big THANK YOU to all who have responded to my message. I live in Australia and I am glad to have others help me learn about this hobby. I am very "wet under the ears" when it comes to using a detector.
I rushed into buying a cheap chinese import off ebay ( which I now regret). At least it has given me some experience in using a detector.

I tried it out in my back yard last night. MY haul was a rusting old bolt, a ring pull and a small washer! Not a good start but I enjoy the challenge.

I think I will take all your advice and buy a Ace 250. I will have to import it from the US but will be cheaper then buying it from australia. Although warranty issues may be a problem?

Anyway, I will listen to you guys and I am sure I will learn a lot from your experiences.

Best Regards
David Cooper. Brisbane, QLD. Australia:beers:
 
..shouldnt be too hasty to dismiss your first efforts - after all you detected metal!! In fact, the same metal all of us with our fancy detectors find: a rusting old bolt, a ring pull and a small washer.
I found the same stuff today, my friend. Lots of the ring pulls, in fact.

I think I will take all your advice and buy a Ace 250. I will have to import it from the US but will be cheaper then buying it from australia. Although warranty issues may be a problem?

Warranty repairs will have to be done in Texas, unless Garrett has an authorized repair site in Aussie-land. Email them and ask!

David
 
There is a Garrett dealer in Australia. It's Phil at: http://www.goldminingcentre.com.au/ He also sells other brands and seems to be the proverbial "Good egg". He'll also be able to give you the heads up on your soil and problems associated with it. ...Willy.
 
I went crosscountry skiing a couple of days ago and I usually do 3 to 4 intervals of 2.4 mile laps a round the lake uninterrupted,but there were two guys metal detecting and I had to check them out.They explained the park gave them permission to search and that they were filling in their holes.The park is only twenty years old so I thought this would be amusing to watch these guys for a couple of minutes to see if they find anything,which there were some bare spots without snow. While they were searching I was talking to them,one guy with the detector the other digging.They were popping coins out as I told them that this spring I was going to do some detecting with my old vintage Compass.The detector user said the id showed a pull tab as I watched a real nice three stone diamond ring was recovered.The operator said this was only his second day metal detecting.He showed me the detector a Whites Prizm 4. Gee my thought was I need a new detector. Anyway I bought a Garrett Predator 3 299.00 which I haven't received or used yet is anyone familiar with this unit.Hopefully I found the answer to the 300.00 question. Sundance
 
"Anyway I bought a Garrett Predator 3 299.00 which I haven't received or used yet is anyone familiar with this unit.Hopefully I found the answer to the 300.00 question. Sundance"

I dont know much about the Pred's although there is always a machine like it in the Garrett lineup. You can go here to read some reviews of the general lineup:

http://www.tomstreasures.com/review.html

Alas, the reviews arent so great, I fear.

Something for you to consider is to sell the Pred and get an Ace 250. Youll probably come out behind, but in the end youll get a better detector. I been 'tecting for 15 years and I am impressed with the Ace 250 for the price. VERY impressed.

David
 
I guess I'll have to use it and see for myself.I had a Fischer 1225x,and I just didn't like the machine.I hope the reviews are wrong. Thanks Sundance.
 
Hi David i brought my gtp 1350 on ebay for 400.Us plus 58.10 Us post&insurance used but in excellent condition as only used on display on trade show table seller had excellent feedback.also do you mind telling me where you are from ,I'm from Cobram Victoria on the Murray river NSW & VIC border the 1350 sell for about $1,1oo Aus it also comes with full warranty, regards Rob Wood
 
I would swap the Predator for a 250 immediately as it is ten times the detector. I field tested those machine long ago and the 250 is light years ahead of them.

Bill
 
What I already said. Do it before the smarting start :)
David
 
Hello,
Happy new year from Brisbane,qld. I HAVE ORDERED a GARRETT ACE 250 it should be here in a week or so.
I am new to using a detector so I am wanting to explore and learn as much as possible.

Have you had any good finds down in your kneck of the woods?
regards
David Cooper
 
Bill you said you tested the Predator 3 and the Ace 250. What was it you didn't like about the Pred pinpointing, depth, discriminate?I read the reviews,and it sounds like everyone thinks this detector is a rehashed Ace 300. The two people who reviewed seemed to be inexperienced operators. I am not a big fan of motion metal detectors,but will make an effort to learn to use one.Did you ever make an air test comparison between the two,even my old Garrett Coin Hunter I used in the late 70s could air test a quarter at 10inches and at most parks 7-8inches in the ground.Finally if the performance is bad as everyone claims this detector will go on the auction block. Thanks
 
mate mine is still in transit also so no finds just unbearable waiting
should be here in a day or two so Ive been scoping the landscape looking for potential spot so far three houses over 100 years old i have already approached owners and they have given permission .PS i used to live in Brissie north side
 
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