Looking for a Golden uMax in the near future - -

[dahut]

I have a few things to knock out of the way first, but I will soon be looking to get another Golden uMax. I had one until recently, but like a dummy, I traded it.
I have other detectors, but I often reached for that Golden first. I'd like to get one back, in time.
Any one with one to sell, or who might consider it, please let me know?

 

[steve 1]

How did you like the tones, I have heard there isnt alot of difference in the 4,, did you find this to be the case. I have also been thinking about a Golden. It is one of,,, if not the only Tesoro still made that uses the ED120 discrimination. I think it operates at 10 khz. Do the Golden should be A coin magnet. I had another Tesoro with the ED120 discrim and operated at 12khz and it was great..

 

[dahut]

I like the tones, myself. No, they are not widely separated but you get used to it.
After all, anything between nickel and screwcap is... what? Pulltab? Gold? large foil wad?

No matter what, the two middle tones are telling you midrange target. That's when the notch filter gets into the act, helping you to further refine the information.
But in the end, you either dig or you dont.
There also two more tones you dont hear much about, for a total of six. One of them the "rolling tone," is very useful. A wealth of information, really.
I've also heard you can tweak an internal pot and spread the tones out, but I've never done it.

That whole ED-120 vs ED-180 stuff is lost on me. I know the theory behind it, but have yet to see where it makes much difference to accept more phase response into the iron range. I've used both and like I said, not that much to crow about.

Is it a coin magnet? Well, I sorta dislike such lurid terms as they're misleading. It finds coins well, yes, since that is it's designed purpose. Better than others, like some 'mystery magnet?' No sorry - it is what it is.

I have found quarters at 10" with it and the notch is so precise it allows me to hunt in places that others cannot touch. Used properly you can ID most targets with accuracy. To me, it is the total package, ie, the combination of features that make the Golden desirable.

 

[slingshot]

Dadgone! I had just forgotten about the Golden and how much I want it and ya'll start in on it again. I still remember all the posts about it-even remember that you can go inside and adjust the g/b(I know which pot that is), how you can also tweak the other pot and change the tones. I even know that you can rotate the notch control and change the tones without going inside. They have it set for iron/low tone for foil, low tone for nickels, low/med tone for tabs, med/high tone for zinc, and high tone for coins. I even read where one poster said it was best not to change the tones from the inside as it threw the notch settings off. There was even one poster who had it to where he could tell most nickels from the square tab. And there's the ability to switch from disc to notch with the flip of the switch. And the tones work in the motion a/m mode. I can't take it much longer!

 

[dahut]

Just dont go looking for one before I get mine, slingshot!

 

[JB(MS)]

I've posted before that by using notch and the notch width control that I can set my Golden to reject the newer square type tabs and detect nickels. With the disc set to just accept nickels and the notch width control turned counter clockwise until that type tab is just rejected it will still give a signal on a nickel and the only tabs that give a response are broken, bent or deep. By getting the internal pot and the notch width control set just right you can run with no discrimination and also tell most of that type tab from nickels. I need to use the Golden more. Except for a couple of months when I traded it to a buddy, who never used it a single time, and then traded for it back I've had it for about 5 years and haven't used it enought to justify keeping it.

 

[slingshot]

You haven't been using it? Why? I've gotta know If you send it to me I promise to use it everyday! Or at least put together a long post and refresh our memories or send the link to that post that I read. It was awesome. I have the Royal Sabre, and it mimics the Golden in some areas, but falls short in others, and I OFTEN use it-which is probably kept my sanity since I don't have the Golden. Seriously, why did you quit using it? Thanks.

 

[dahut]

- - I'll make the same promise to use it often....... and I'll even pay you for it!

 

[steve 1]

Well the Golden sure sounds like the cats meow,, and sorry about the lurid expression, but I tend to use plenty of them. I also have a habit of speaking in parables,, but I will save you the grief of that .. What I was refering to with the ED 120 machine is how it tends to ' BANG HARDER on its drum, when it gets into the upper conductivity range, such as modern clad coins,, There is a profound difference in the reponse, as opposed to a machine using the ED180 discrimination circuit. I believe the reason the 180 machines were designed in the first place was to be more sensitive to lowerer conductivity targets such as iron. Henceforth to make a relic hunting machine. BUT Tesoro found that the 180 machines were " adequate' to also perform the task of coin hunting. So in short,, the newer 180 ED machines are primarily designed for relic hunting. The compadre uses ED 180 and is marketed as an ' ALL TERRAIN" machine. So is the SILVER UMAX. I wish Tesoro would bring back more true COIN HUNTING ORIENTED machines with the 120. As of now, the only real coin hunter non TID that Tesoro makes is the Golden,, A less expensive machine,, such as something built along the patform that the Sidewinder was built on would be awesome. I dont believe they will though, because most people dont know the difference, or have never used the ED120 machines,, so you cant miss something youve never had or know nothing about. Tesoro make GREAT detectors,, but I just hope they dont get caught up in a " ONE SIZE FITS ALL: mentality when they produce thier machines, because thier machines are not and cannot work that way with the current technology they are using in them.. Thanks for reading, and sharing. PS I have message Tesoro asking them why not bring back a few ED 120 basic starter machines.. No response .

 

[JB(MS)]

I've made deals to trade it twice within the last year and half, but both times my wife and daughter browbeat me into keeping it because it's the only detector I have my 9 year old grandson can use. I took him out with it one time and he found a bunch of coins, but he doesn't appear to be at all intersted in going again and had rather be playing video games. The reason I don't use it much is my main coin hunting detector is a modified "mongrelized" A.&.S Treasure Baron. It's mounted upside down on a Minelab upper pole, the coil I use most on it is on a Fisher lower rod and I had a Garrett GTA armrest on it but caught so much flack about what a couple of guys called the "sh!tty green" color I put another rest on it. It's about twice the weight of the Golden but it's kind of a Golden Sabre II on steroids, same type audio, low and high tones with mixed tone in the target range where the break is set and it has one of the best notch setups I've used on a detector. It runs stable at max sensitivity, works well in trash and has excellent depth. Photo is how it looked with the Garrett armrest.

 

[slingshot]

That's the way I have my Royal Sabre setup. While experimenting, I found that turning the notch knob I could change the tones while in Disc. mode. The tabs now break up with a mixed tone and the nickel a low tone and the coins a high tone. It is indeed a welcome from the 6-? tones you say the Golden has. But you have captivated my interest as far as the notch setup on the Golden. Maybe I'll just be happy that I have the Royal with the setup like yours. The notch part of the machine has a wider width than I wanted, but it is functional and I like the tones, anyway. Thanks. All you need now is something with purple or maybe polka dots on your machine.

 

[Pap]

testing the Golden it would appear to be a 180 phase contrary to what is published. I agree that for most uses it make little difference.
Pap

 

[Mike Hillis]

The machines you are refering to as being ED120 are all 10 and 12 kHz units. The new ED180's are all 14kHz and higher. That makes a big difference on the "bang" as you put it, for high conductors.

HH

Mike