Read another thread where a hunter was using the long tones and was very happy with them. I tried it , but not for long cuz I had a hard time PP with it that way, and,,,,, I was just short of patience. Well the last two days I had a better attitude and tried it on long,,,,,, the first coin I hit I thought I actually hit the PP button cuz the tone was SOOOOO LONG. The good target with the long tone REALLY stood out above the short crappy falses. I am able to run at a higher sens cuz the little choppy signals mean nothing,,,,, I just wait untill a long tone comes in and BAM,,,,, good target. THe PP is getting much better and it is worth the hassle to learn the long tones IMHO. Try it in a know taget rich area and tell me what you think,,,,, HH