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locating the target

I just bought a QDII and I'm having trouble pin pointing the target. I used the older bounty hunter product a long time ago that would sound when the target is centered in the middle of the disk. My QDII seems to sound when the target hits the edge of the outer ring. Since the disk must be moving to detect, I'm struggling with the exact location of the target. I've tried the "X" method but I still end up digging a six inch diameter hole before I locate the target. With the older detector, I used to pop the coin out with a screwdriver! Suggestions would be greatly appreciated.

Digging up my farm in Pennsylvania,
Bernie
 
I'm sure some of the more experienced guys can help you more but I just got the QDII a few months ago and had the same problem not being able to pin point the target, always ended up with a 6 inch hole to find a penny. Someone suggested getting the smaller 4 inch coil so I ordered one and it really helps with pin pointing. They cost about $20 or $30.
You can't cover as much ground as the larger coil but it makes finding the target easier.

Where are you in PA? I'm 15 minutes South of Lancaster.
 
I live in Chaneysville, Bedford County. It is located halfway between Bedford, Pa and Flint stone, MD off RT 326. I'm thinking that the smaller loop inside the larger loop is supposed to be doing that. A lot of practice is in my future I'm sure. I have a small farm and lots of junk in the ground. The farm was started in the early 1800s.

Bernie
 
The outer loop is your transmitting loop, and the inner loop is the receiving loop...try using slow small waves of the coil over the target...if this still does not help, lift the coil off the ground about an inch and X again.

BH-LandStar

P.S. I have never used a QDII, but even my Pioneer 202 could pinpoint so I could dig a flap and be on top of my target.
 
when you 'x' a target [lets say coin] do you get a tone at each edge of the coin as your coil passes over? If so then you should hear a double tone in each direction and the intersection of your double toned lines would be your target. My daughters md gets louder as you close on the target. So the intersect of her two loudest tones would be the target. Takes lots of practice or at least it has for me. Hope I didn't offend and maybe I even helped.
HH,
Doug in Oregon
 
BH and Doug,
Thanks for the great feedback. All information is helpful. I didn't know about the inner outer ring functions. Before the ground freezes again, I will practice some more.

Bernie
 
The sound will occure in the middle of the inner ring....when you "X" be looking for the spot on the ground where you here the tone....Remember...Slow, deliberate short sweeps over the target pinpoint better than long, fast, jerky movements. It took me a while to learn to slow down...Also a good Pinpoint probe like the Bullseye II or the Vibra-Probe 570 are great to have..."Here it comes First Texas..." Even my cheap Teknetiks probe is invaluable to me...although a pain in the posterior sometimes. (Low volume, low vibration, battery compartment has to be taped shut).

Hope this helps,

BH-LandStar
 
I own the 202 which is the Walmart QDII. Don't get discouraged it takes practice. When I go out with my unit I only carry a long narrow screwdriver. I only use the digger for deep targets below 4-5 inches. Shorten your swing over the target area and using the X you can close in on the center of the target. With very few exceptions I can often come down right on top of the target. It sometimes helps to slightly raise the coil over the target area, it seems to help in locating the center of the target. It's a great machine, very good coin finder...practice, practice, practice. You're going to really grow to like your purchase. Good luck
 
Here's two cents from a rookie.... I found an old fishing rod in my garage that I broke last year. It's about the but end of a flipping stick with a corck handle and a trigger. It wotks great for the shallow stuff 1-3 inches. AH!! Maybe that was one cent worth...

Keep Gig'in
 
This is just my 2 cents...I had a Pioneer 202 (QD II). It was my first machine...I did not care for it much, as I had the same problem as you do. Take my advice, and get rid of it on eBay...Get a Sharp Shooter II or Pioneer 505 (same machine), or get the Land Star. The no motion all metal mode is a great way to pinpoint. As you get nearer to your target, the sound gets louder. With a good set of headphones, you can get right on top of your target. Also Xing is way easier. The BH like a sweep speed of about 2 feet per second....this is relatively slow speed. When you X with the 202, make short quicker sweeps, and watch for the spot where the tone occurs. The center of the coil should be where you first hear the tone. I swing from side to side, then front to back. If I cannot find the target, I move 90 degrees around it, and X again.

Hope this helps,

BH-LandStar
 
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