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Live comparison on deep coin: Deus, CTX & E-Trac

Southwind

Southwind

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I was pretty sure this was a deep coin so I took the opportunity to do a comparison of my Deus, E-Trac and CTX 3030. The coin was roughly 7" deep.

[video]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=di2yBikMI7c[/video]
 
In defense of the Deus its outside speaker isn't near as loud as the E-Trac which is even louder than the CTX's external speaker. The coin on the Deus, with the headphones, actually sounded the best I thought. The number were far more steady than the E-Trac. The CTX and the Deus numbers were pretty solid. The Deus was the only one that made a sound all the way around on the coin but settings had a bit to do with that.
 
Wow thats awesome! I love my etrac but been doing some comparing myself with another machine. Etrac has lost a few head to heads with my fisher f70.
 
Not to criticize as well.... but running an Etrac with that much discrimination (typ. coin pattern) and in auto sensitivity as in the vid will affect results. Not sure how you can set these different machines up to try to make a true or at least as close as possible comparison. Running an Etrac with a more open screen and in manual .....it's a different machine.
 
Thanks for taking the time. It is hard to do a comparison with different machines when you can't set them up identical but that target would have gotten dug with either in my opinion. HH :minelab:
 
What was that a chipmunk chirping for you in the back ground??? I remember my first detector 40 yrs ago and was a cheap unit from Radio Shack that sounded very similar. They gotta be able to provide something better than that! Did like the Etrac sound best and I do miss mine, especially the X1 part!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
I obviously could have made many changes too all the detectors tested. What I did was to test them adjusted as I hunt with them. What good will it do me to test them in an environment I wouldn't use? Really I think all detectors did very well with the only exception being how solid the VDI was. There isn't a lot of adjusting I could do to make the VDI more accurate. The results were typical of what I see in the wild and what I see others post. That being the VDI is a bit more accurate on the CTX than the E-Trac. What many didn't probably know is that the VDI of the Deus is also very accurate at depth.

that target would have gotten dug with either in my opinion.
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Exactly right! I felt all machines did a very good job and I would have recovered the target on any of them.

This test was mainly for my own good. I find it very helpful to video the results and view them later. It gives me a chance to see it as an observer which I often see and hear things I didn't in the wild.
 
That coin had to be on edge if no other junk around it, was it?

All 3 had some iffy tone problems in that one direction though the Deus was the more consistant tone wise but its ID crapped out.
The minelab's two way tones were good enough for me to dig dependant on the two way IDs which were hard to make out especially with the eTRAC.
This is where the digital ID in both directions is important in deciding to dig or not. Had similar indications on my eTRAC that turned out to be short/stubby corroded nails or bolts....and sometimes they were keepers on-edge or extremely deep with nearby junk.

By the way, that Deus sounds like my dog's squeak toy. lol
 
I watched the video and it appeared to me the DEUS kind of sucked. Yet you say that is speaker differences and it did better. I appreciate you taking the time to do the video because it says more about video comparisons than the detectors themselves.

I know you did not do it but it is incredibly easy to manipulate a video to get a desired result. I have seen videos that illustrate one thing when I know for a fact the opposite is true. I think videos are great for showing how a detector works and sounds but when it comes to comparing various detectors for depth on camera things are far more doubtful in my opinion.

Thanks again for taking the time.
 
Southwind Like I said I was not criticizing just stating my opinion I guess. It would be hard to satisfy everyone with this type of comparison. Everybody runs their machine different and geographic variables throw more variables in the mix. Your right bottom line I would have dug that target using all detectors. Responses to a post of this nature will always differ..... especially those favoring their choice in detectors. You'll never get away from that. I'm with ironsight and a few others, don't think I could handle the "squeaky toy" sound of an XP Duh.... But to each his own. Thanks for sharing the video. Hunter
 
Thanks for taking the time to make and show the video . I found it enlightening and interesting . After seeing it
it up against the big boys I wouldn't rule out getting one if I could no longer swing the Explorer .
 
wouldn't identical be the best setting for each individual machine. of course if the user wasn't experienced with all the machines it would be hard to set them up
 
steve herschbach said:
I watched the video and it appeared to me the DEUS kind of sucked. Yet you say that is speaker differences and it did better. I appreciate you taking the time to do the video because it says more about video comparisons than the detectors themselves.

I know you did not do it but it is incredibly easy to manipulate a video to get a desired result. I have seen videos that illustrate one thing when I know for a fact the opposite is true. I think videos are great for showing how a detector works and sounds but when it comes to comparing various detectors for depth on camera things are far more doubtful in my opinion.

Thanks again for taking the time.
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I would guess the Deus appeared to suck to you is more of a result of your inexperience with it than the detector itself. Tones on the Deus are much quicker than the Minelab units and unfortunately less descriptive and I believe they were set in FullTone mode which , like the F75's DeltaPitch mode , is probably the worst for tonal quality. The 3,4 and 5 tone modes on the Deus are more appealing. The tones are about the only thing I've found disappointing on it so far but , with sufficient time I'm sure we can find more , just like the 3030 and the etrac have their detractions as well. I would expect them all to hit that coin at 7"for their costs.

Appreciate the straight up video..........
 
wouldn't identical be the best setting for each individual machine.
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The strength of the E-Trac is the tone so it wouldn't be right to turn the tones off to make it identical to the others. The strength of the Deus is recovery speed so it wouldn't be fair to turn down Reactivity to be identical to the others. I have used the E-Trac for more than 5 years and it was set to what I have determined worked best for me. I have used the CTX and Deus about a year and they were both set to where they work best for me. In the end they were all able to see the good target. The difference being the CTX and Deus had a bit more accurate target ID and the Deus continued to sound off from all directions, although again, the way I set it up helped in that area so I don't call it a better response. Basically they were all very close and I would have dug the target with all of them. The difference would be I'd much rather be swinging the Deus due to the lightness and wireless.
 
Hunter above said it right and I watch too many test vids with the same OVER discrimination patterns. I don't know about other places more eastward than Oregon, but you really need more open screen out here. Discrim down to 28-29 for coins mode. I run at this one school in almost All Metal but notch out 35-36 on etrac. Because I hit a Peace dollar with discrim on, down to 29, and the coin was almost like a ghost. When I switched it over to ALL Metal, all good numbers. It really through me for a loop. So now I run even less discrim when I can. I'm lookin into getting a CTX but looking at the Deus and Blisstool as well.
 
Well I've said it before and I'll say it again, I'm a very selective hunter now days. My days of minimum discrimination because I might miss something is long gone. I did that for many years and never found anything to ever prove running an open discrimination was worth all the digging trash. Don't get me wrong if that's your idea of good hunting them power to ya. Today I don't want to bend over unless I plan to recover something worth bending over for. Yes, call me lazy but I hunt for fun and nothing else at this point in my metal detecting hobby, and I don't call digging junk fun. If I only come home with 3 targets they will almost always be keepers. I ran this test using the same setup on each detector I use in the wild because that is what I use so why tweak this and tweak that just to make it sound better when I won't use it anyway?

I did the test for myself so that I could get home, load the videos on my PC, and watch them compared from a 3rd person/shooter view. You can learn a lot that way. I mainly learned you can't always trust what you think you heard while out hunting. You get home and say WOW that detector did better/worse than I thought it did.
 
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