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Listening through the noise with the ATX

dmnz

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HI Guys for some reason was having a really hard time detecting with the ATX again, still waiting for 8 inch coil to return and have been using the 'stock coil' that covers more ground per sweep. Anyway, turns out my 'new' Grey Ghost headphones are faulty, this is a basically brand new set and the adjustment pot seems to have leaked - making the machine quiet, and hard to hear real targets through the noise. Off to the USA again for shipping and repair!

The good news, I normally only really concentrate on HIGH LOWS, without any form of ground balancing. Yielding usually gold targets - however, as the headphones had been on the blink I was having trouble listening to any targets, so dug everything. Glad I did!

White gold is mixed with silver - so it registers as a high conductor on big rings with the ATX! No idea how that ring was bent - possibly and most likely from my scoop against the clay - it was hard to get at!

the second gold is very old and a decent weight, came out tarnished so needed to give it a polish.
 
I have two rings (both yellow gold) attached to a string thst I carry with me to help calibrate the machine. One is a small lady's 14K at under 2 grams and the other is a medium man's 14K at about 6 grams. The lady's sings out Hi-Lo and the man's Lo-Hi.

I've assumed the larger sized ring was was the reason for indicating high conductor. I know that is true on the Deus and I suspect other non-PI's.

I'm curious if size is really the factor for this on the ATX also..any other experiences?

Joe (California)
 
dmnz, I'm not so sure you bent that ring, sitting on the scale, it looks to perfectly shaped....intentionally in that triad shape?

Dr. Joe and dmnz : comments on the tones on the ATX due to metal makeup/size is something I've been tossing around in my head lately too.....but more so because of two earrings that I got with my CTX that read out as gold, both mid range to low range on the scale yet both turned out to be gold plated silver and were marked silver. I have yet to get the ATX out and see how they sound on it.
Now the question is it the size, shape, metal mix OR the metal on the outside surface of the target that provides the tone/sound coming out of either of those two detectors......proof again that even with a VLF, you should just dig it all.....
Maybe Steve H. will read this and submit his thoughts.....

Cliff
 
I totally agree about the tones on a PI or on a VLF. The tones and VDI numbers on any detector can be all over the place on any given metal due to many combination of factors.

I have found that any combination of the target size, shape, density, corrosion on target, halo around the target, ground density, ground moisture, ground mineralization, depth in the ground. And anything else next to the target, or something deeper under the target, can greatly affect what your hearing or seeing on the VDI.

With my VLF, I have scooped a gold ring thinking it was a steel washer and I have scooped a silver ring thinking it was an aluminum screw-on cap. Both targets were deep under the dry sand in moist very hard packed sand.

If targets are just in the dry sand, without anything deeper under the target, the tones and VDI are fairly consistent. Which is almost like an air test.
 
I believe that shape is the original shape. My wife's wedding ring also has that tri-shape to it. I have also found some rings in that design. WTG with a few more rings. It's amazing how the amalgamation with gold can affect rings. I have found plenty of nice big gold rings with my land detectors with a high conductivity reading. That kind of is in line with "gold is where you find it"
 
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