I have a like new set of the new style Ratphones that I just got today from Richard @ Backwoods Detectors. I tried them on and quickly realized that the ear cups would not fit my big ears. These were returned to Richard after a couple of hours of use and he sold them to me at a used price. They are like new and they are of top quality. I would consider a like condition set of full sized phones ( killer b hornets, timberwolfs) for an even up trade or will sell outright for 90.00. R.L. Johnson