So as I had stated in an earlier post, I have purchased the 13" DD "Ultimate" coil from that other place, its freaking huge by the way, I should have sized it to see how big it really is, so with that said I am going out more often just so I can learn this coil a little better, it seams as if the pin point on it is a tad off, and is usually about 1-2 inches to the 12 position (clock as reference) and not dead center of the coil, which at this time makes me dig bigger holes. I have been finding alot of clad with it, and it seems to be able to pick up on "good targets" better in trashey areas, just messing around in my back yard the other day I found a military dog tag, remember I live just outside of Fort Riley, but this one is older, it has the tooth notch and the fella had a service number not SSN like they use now, The Army stopped using service numbers in July 1969. He did also have his SSN on the tag too which I have blacked out