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Barnacle Bill's message just below this one is very interesting. Bill..if I may call you Bill....I would consider your decision to buy the Tejon for the areas you describe as possibly the worst mistake you have made in your life!! <img src="/metal/html/shrug.gif" border=0 width=37 height=15 alt=":shrug"> ...Well hopefully that is the worst mistake you have made in your life. <img src="/metal/html/smile.gif" border=0 width=15 height=15 alt=""> <img src="/metal/html/smile.gif" border=0 width=15 height=15 alt=""> I have hunted with the tejon for about six months and consider it a great relic hunter in the right place. I was trying to use it in trashy campsites with the 5.75" coil. In iron infested areas you can make it work...but you will go home with a headache.
Great machine in the right area. Terrible in the wrong area.
Myself, Mike and Karen King and MagnumPi are all now using a Cibola or a Vaquero in trashy areas. Bill...they are an absolute dream in the trash. 99% of the iron is eliminated at 0 discrimination and you can decide how much more you want to eliminate.
MagnumPi and myself have totally set aside our Tejon's. They are about to go up for sale. After Saturdays hunt Mike is ready to toss his too.
We went to one place where it was not trashy but the possiblity was there for some nice stuff that would not be to deep. Mike set up his Vaquero with the 5.75" coil. We left there after it started raining. Our second spot was going to strain the depth capabilities of any detector so I told Mike to use his large coil. I located a signal soon after hitting the woods. Mike had his Tejon set up with his large coil and his Vaquero had his 5.75" on it. He first brought out his Tejon. After locating the signal I called him over to check it. He got it but the Cibola was getting it better. We dug it and it was a 69 caliber musket ball at around 8". After seeing that we checked several other signals. I was always able to locate the target 3" above the Tejon's max depth. Needless to say he immediatley went back to the truck and switched machines putting the large coil on his Vaquero.
Karen was using her Cibloa for the first time. She was not able to get the hang of tuning it and was not happy.
Today I went over to their house. Mike has a new nickel that he buried at 10" two weeks ago. I drove a 3/4" plastic pipe beside it and used snap ties to attach a yard stick so we could measure how high above the ground each detector could see the nickel.
We first tried his Tejon. It would get the nickel just barely off the ground. It was a ratty signal and you would have had to working very tight to stop on it. I next tried my Tejon with similar results.
We then tried Mike's Vaquero. It would hit the nickel with a good repeatable signal at 3 1/2" above the ground. The machine was perfectly ground balanced..sensitivity all the way up and the discriminate on iron..threshold was set at a supertuned position of 2:00. That is the set up we hunt in...when not in the trash. We do not supertune in the trash. We run discrimniate at iron, Threshold at normal sound. sensitivity at 4 1/2.
Next we tried my Cibola. It would again hit the signal at 3 1/2" but we felt it was a little stronger hit. The machine was set up as Mike's was above..just no need to ground balance. We then tried Karen's Cibola with results very close to Mike's Vaquero. Maybe a tiny bit stronger but not enough to worry about. After the test I told Karen that we were gonna set the knobs for her and super glue them in place...and that I would add a simple off/on switch so she could turn it on..She now has confidence in the machine and will do just fine.
We found out Saturday that these machines will shut each other down if they are set up on the same frequency. If Mike's Vaquero was on 3..I had to be on 1 or it would make my machine loss all depth without any evidence of cross talk. We figured out that it started at 25' from each other and totally shut down both machines within a 20' circle.
Thought ya'll may enjoy what we learned over the last two days...and that was a great review of the Tejon Bill..I agree totally with your results and believe there is no solution..other than another machine.
Ya'll have a great week
The Mayor
Barnacle Bill's message just below this one is very interesting. Bill..if I may call you Bill....I would consider your decision to buy the Tejon for the areas you describe as possibly the worst mistake you have made in your life!! <img src="/metal/html/shrug.gif" border=0 width=37 height=15 alt=":shrug"> ...Well hopefully that is the worst mistake you have made in your life. <img src="/metal/html/smile.gif" border=0 width=15 height=15 alt=""> <img src="/metal/html/smile.gif" border=0 width=15 height=15 alt=""> I have hunted with the tejon for about six months and consider it a great relic hunter in the right place. I was trying to use it in trashy campsites with the 5.75" coil. In iron infested areas you can make it work...but you will go home with a headache.
Great machine in the right area. Terrible in the wrong area.
Myself, Mike and Karen King and MagnumPi are all now using a Cibola or a Vaquero in trashy areas. Bill...they are an absolute dream in the trash. 99% of the iron is eliminated at 0 discrimination and you can decide how much more you want to eliminate.
MagnumPi and myself have totally set aside our Tejon's. They are about to go up for sale. After Saturdays hunt Mike is ready to toss his too.
We went to one place where it was not trashy but the possiblity was there for some nice stuff that would not be to deep. Mike set up his Vaquero with the 5.75" coil. We left there after it started raining. Our second spot was going to strain the depth capabilities of any detector so I told Mike to use his large coil. I located a signal soon after hitting the woods. Mike had his Tejon set up with his large coil and his Vaquero had his 5.75" on it. He first brought out his Tejon. After locating the signal I called him over to check it. He got it but the Cibola was getting it better. We dug it and it was a 69 caliber musket ball at around 8". After seeing that we checked several other signals. I was always able to locate the target 3" above the Tejon's max depth. Needless to say he immediatley went back to the truck and switched machines putting the large coil on his Vaquero.
Karen was using her Cibloa for the first time. She was not able to get the hang of tuning it and was not happy.
Today I went over to their house. Mike has a new nickel that he buried at 10" two weeks ago. I drove a 3/4" plastic pipe beside it and used snap ties to attach a yard stick so we could measure how high above the ground each detector could see the nickel.
We first tried his Tejon. It would get the nickel just barely off the ground. It was a ratty signal and you would have had to working very tight to stop on it. I next tried my Tejon with similar results.
We then tried Mike's Vaquero. It would hit the nickel with a good repeatable signal at 3 1/2" above the ground. The machine was perfectly ground balanced..sensitivity all the way up and the discriminate on iron..threshold was set at a supertuned position of 2:00. That is the set up we hunt in...when not in the trash. We do not supertune in the trash. We run discrimniate at iron, Threshold at normal sound. sensitivity at 4 1/2.
Next we tried my Cibola. It would again hit the signal at 3 1/2" but we felt it was a little stronger hit. The machine was set up as Mike's was above..just no need to ground balance. We then tried Karen's Cibola with results very close to Mike's Vaquero. Maybe a tiny bit stronger but not enough to worry about. After the test I told Karen that we were gonna set the knobs for her and super glue them in place...and that I would add a simple off/on switch so she could turn it on..She now has confidence in the machine and will do just fine.
We found out Saturday that these machines will shut each other down if they are set up on the same frequency. If Mike's Vaquero was on 3..I had to be on 1 or it would make my machine loss all depth without any evidence of cross talk. We figured out that it started at 25' from each other and totally shut down both machines within a 20' circle.
Thought ya'll may enjoy what we learned over the last two days...and that was a great review of the Tejon Bill..I agree totally with your results and believe there is no solution..other than another machine.
Ya'll have a great week
The Mayor