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Learning Curve ,I was my own worst Enemy

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hunter_46356

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Working up to 70hrs on the Trac and today I believe I finally realized what was holding me up in the learning curve. Been working back and forth with TTF and Multi Conductive. I found myself hung up on bouncing TID and the flash of a good set of numbers. I
 
You're getting the hang of it....basics, time and digging.
There's a time and place for ferrous tones and a time and a place for conductive tones. Both work equally well in the areas they were designed for.

I think a lot of people starting off with the etrac read these forums and the books then try every advanced setting and pattern posted while learning none.
 
Digging that trash to start is a really great way to learn the tones in Mulit-Cond. Tones. At first I really loved nickels, the E-Trac didn't "false" on nickels. Glad to hear its coming together.

NebTrac
 
One day I decided to have fun metal detecting. I put on a 8x6 SEF coil, put the machine in relic mode, TTF, auto +3 and have never changed a thing. I have been knocking it out of the park all summer and having a blast. I like to spend my time swinging and digging instead of worrying about settings. You can play with settings all you want and if you get your coil over a good target, the E will tell you, no matter what you have it set at. Time in the field is so much more important than setting ever will be. I'm glad I am not a gadget guy.
 
Surfinsafari said:
One day I decided to have fun metal detecting. I put on a 8x6 SEF coil, put the machine in relic mode, TTF, auto +3 and have never changed a thing. I have been knocking it out of the park all summer and having a blast. I like to spend my time swinging and digging instead of worrying about settings. You can play with settings all you want and if you get your coil over a good target, the E will tell you, no matter what you have it set at. Time in the field is so much more important than setting ever will be. I'm glad I am not a gadget guy.
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Amen !!! You only left one thing out. Go SLOOOOOOO W.
 
hunter_46356 said:
Working up to 70hrs on the Trac and today I believe I finally realized what was holding me up in the learning curve. Been working back and forth with TTF and Multi Conductive. I found myself hung up on bouncing TID and the flash of a good set of numbers. I
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Brian, My point exactly, I was making things way more complicated than should be. I didn't have the confidence the Trac would give me the solid tones and signals I was looking for. Therefore I was trying to make every iffy peep and set of numbers diggable, if that's a word. Everyone gets involved with discrimination patters. They're like fishing lures.... thousands on the market and everyone says theirs will catch bigger and better fish. Everyone knows there's too many variables to make one pattern good for any place, every time. Except maybe the wide open with manual sens as high as conditions will allow. Some of my places will drive you crazy with the trash symphony. It's all in what you can handle. As far as not adjusting sensitivity I would have to say if you want to make any program find the deep stuff you need to run as high as you can stand. Even in an open pattern. With this set up, I've found you run the risk of inaccurate numbers when getting a good tone. but when I drop to auto the numbers stabilize and sometimes give me another confirmation I have a good target. If you drop to auto and still get crappy numbers it's usually trash. The only thing I can't overcome is the small can slaw, but I dig a lot less trash.
 
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diggable, if that's a word.
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You bet that's a word....its in all E-Trac users vocabulary. :twodetecting:

NebTrac
 
I've been thinking about my own learning curve obstacles lately and although I feel I'm doing a heck of a lot better than with any other machine I've owned, I find myself getting stuck ONLY digging certain numbers (the typical indian head numbers, the +40 conductives, the 11s, 12s, 13s, and 14s for nickels) but then I come on here and see people mention finding lots of stuff at numbers I very rarely dig (most of the 20s, for example). I agree, I am DEFINITELY my own biggest hindrance in really finding more!
 
I was trying to make every iffy peep and set of numbers diggable
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This is the problem with most people and a detector they are not familiar with. Many give up before they realize the detector isn't the problem.
 
Trpnbils, Gotta get over the typical number sets and really listen for the tones. Deeper targets with trash will ruin the typical numbers of a good target at depth or with trash nearby or even another coin. I've even found this true in conductive which is usually more stable than running in TTF and the ferrous number shifts. Lots of variables and believe me I don't know the half of them probably never will. Just dug a wheat and my second ever IH last week. Numbers were some typ.for both these coins then I'd get some 1- 30 to 42'sBut the sounds were great. Dug the hole, wheat was in one side at about 3 to 4" IH in the other at probably 8. Just about missed the Indian. If it wasn't for ironsight and his TRX I would have probably fill the hole.
 
the key to any metal detector is repeatability ... I struggled at first with the etrac in conductive even though I made a few good finds,( Flying Eagle Cent and First Barber ) then switched to TTF and fell in love, I've been hunting some iron laden colonial sites and it was awesome but hit our fairgrounds and knew it would be full of modern trash and TTF just wouldn't cut it so I tried conductive again and wow I got it this time, I still use both but the key to either one is a repeatable tone and thank God for the quick mask button, I've went thru several coils too and found 3 I love that give great solid tones
 
surfchunker said:
the key to any metal detector is repeatability ... I struggled at first with the etrac in conductive even though I made a few good finds,( Flying Eagle Cent and First Barber ) then switched to TTF and fell in love, I've been hunting some iron laden colonial sites and it was awesome but hit our fairgrounds and knew it would be full of modern trash and TTF just wouldn't cut it so I tried conductive again and wow I got it this time, I still use both but the key to either one is a repeatable tone and thank God for the quick mask button, I've went thru several coils too and found 3 I love that give great solid tones
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What 3 coils are you using?
 
two coiltek coils, the 10x5 and the WOT, and the Ultimate. I use the 10x5 in small super trashy spots, the WOT for extreme depth and to cover a lot of ground, and the Ultimate for general hunting
 
I had and sold the SEF 8x6, the coiltek 12x8 cause it was too heavy and the NEL 12x8 cause it just didn't have good clear hits and hard to pinpoint with.
 
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