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Learned a lot about the F-70's capabilities today

Steve from Ohio

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Went out today after it rained for the last two days. Went to a local city that has a lake in the center of town with a park around it. The park is about 120 years old. The area was trashy with some pretty bad ground readings.

I started to detect when a guy came up to me and started asking questions about the F-70. Seems he has tried to detect the park for several years and could not find much at all.

I told him today I found two gold rings, a silver ring and several coins. He was amazed. I was too because the ground was real trashy and the minerals in the ground were reading 85 almost everywhere I was at. The dirt bump was at 3 bars.

We started to do some tests with my F-70 on a target that was reading 5 inches down at a reading of 84 but also it was jumping to 14 to 20. The F-70 did a slight click (almost un-noticeable) after hitting 84 and then read in the iron area. It did the exact opposite after swinging back. I was running in the discrimination mode, DE speed,
notching out iron, foil, tabs, and zinc. Sensitivity was set at 40 due to the bad ground with default speed and a -5 threshold. Running 4H tones.

I thought to myself that my F-70 must be acting up. I did a reset and it still was reading 84 and then jumping to 14 to around 20.

So I figured I might want to test some things out on this obvious target that I was not sure was a quarter or what.

I first did a swing test. I swung the metal detector at a regular pace and of course it read it fine. I then sped up the swing going faster and faster to see when the F-70 would not read whatever it was. I could not swing it fast enough for the F-70 not to pick up that target. I was swinging the F-70 so fast that the coil looked like a blur as I moved it. Readings jumped from 84 again to around 20. It was hitting something.

Quite impressive.

I then did a air ground depth test. I had brought along a wooden yardstick and set it up to measure how high I could go until the target faded out.
I was able to swing the F-70's coil up to 8 inches before the F-70 just could not detect that target any longer.

I then dug up the target and it was as the F-70 had said at 5 inches. The problem about that was that it was a small piece of rusted iron in the hole and my Vibraprobe 570 hit that. I thought " Oh great, I have a machine that just loves iron and reads it at 84 and 14 to 20."

I removed that iron and ran it across the coil..a very small click and a reading of 15. OK...discrimination seems to be working. So I scanned the hole with the F-70 again and boom, the 84 reading. So I took the Vibraprobe and started to probe around and there it was, a 1953 Washington quarter exactly at 5 inches about 2 inches to the right in the side of the hole near where the iron was.

The F-70 was impressive with that quarter and piece of iron. I cannot imagine too many other machines out there being able to recover that fast.

Found some clads ($5.72) and hit a few pieces of aluminum can that was hit with a mower.

A pretty good day overall and I was able to learn a lot about the F-70 and what it can do.
 
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that the F70 will actually detect deeper with a faster swing speed than a slower one? Atleast mine does, I've tried to slow it way down like I do my XT50 but find that it will lose the coin signal but when I increase the swing speed it detects deeper, is your's the same way? Thanks, John
 
Indeed if you swing faster it equates to more depth and naturally more coverage. Be sure to read your manual again as this info is given in manual.Extremely fast unit and picks up many goodies missed by others due to masking..
 
Hello John.

Yes, that is what I have found also. I was reading what Streak! was writing and tried some of his ideas.

A faster swing does bring more depth and a more accurate reading as to what is in the ground. I was absolutely amazed how fast I could swing the coil and still read what was in the ground. I mean I was swinging so fast that you could barely see the coil.

I have done some recovery tests and found that the F-70 beats my Explorer SE which has the newest coil. The F-70 is really fast.

I think the F-70 will be a big seller for Fisher. I just wish they had the pots like the F-5 for adjustments. I really like the F-5's control panel.

I'm going to be getting the smaller coil for the F-70 to see how well it works in trash. Clyde at Relic Hunter Supply says he now uses the smaller elliptical Fisher coil about 90% of the time. Been hearing nothing but good things about the small coil.

I was out for about 20 minutes last evening and found this nice little Morgan dime at about 9 inches. I was using the Autotune mode with speed set at slow. Sensitivity was set at 76 with a threshold of -4. I was also able to read the coin with the discrimination set at 0 with no problem.
 
I really love what the F70 has done For me and metal detecting. With it's weight and easy to use features It will follow Me many places. I am in the process of dumping my Heavy weight metal detectors, as I think I have found a winner in the F70. All I have to do is get one more coil for her and she will be complete.
HH
 
I want to use it and I made sure it worked when I got the F-70. I want to go hit some fields with it or take a trip to the beach. Tomorrow I have a date with an old farmer to MD an old log cabin that was removed to Iowa. He told me the root cellar and a lot of other stuff are left there.
 
SE? Do you mean SL or DE? In the SL mode, I could not swing nearly as fast.

It seemed that the F-70 would take a second to register the target and by then I was way past it with the coil. In the SL mode, I swing slower by about a third.

The SL speed is great for depth and I have found that in the SL mode, the F-70 will reveal more about a target than in DE. If the F-70 hits a target hard in SL, I know for sure what it is. It just takes longer to get to that target. I also have found that the SL speed is better for areas of little or no trash.
 
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Hello Brian.

Yes it was the standard coil.

I have all three now. The DD F-75, the 6 inch and the 10 inch elliptical.

Of all three, the small 6 inch is quickly becoming my favorite for hunting in parks. It is just so good in getting around some really trashy areas that I hunt. It can find stuff in areas that are filled with pull tabs and junk that the other coils can only dream about.

The DD coil is good for moderately trashy areas and for covering large areas quickly. I like the DD too around old houses and foundations.
The standard elliptical is best for overall depth but can be somewhat noisy in trash. I guess any of the three are a winner and if I had to make a choice of the three, because of my hunting style and areas I hunt, the 6 inch would be my first choice.

Having it on the end of a F-70 is a really different experience. It is so light and small that it almost feels as if it isn't there. But it sure hits the targets hard.

I read your other post. Congratulations ! You are really going to love the Sunray pin pointer too. Just be careful when you are in the woods with it. The wire will catch on branches quite often.
I used to use the Vibraprobe 570 but running the F-70 hot, the Vibraprobe would make the F-70 go crazy and it stays on for about 2 minutes after using.
It was driving me absolutely crazier than I already am.
 
Thanks Steve, that's good info.

I'm going to see if I can get lucky and drum up a used 6" coil for the F70, else Santa will have a new toy on to add to his list. I have the Sunray probe on my C$ and Sov, and one on the way for the F70 (that's also on it's way) and their really nice to have. I'm always tangled up in and cursing all the wires, so I'm used to that :biggrin:

I'm tempted to trade the Sunray probes in for one of the new DetectorPro PI Pistol Probes, their pretty impressive in Bill Ladds video, but I don't believe their water proof and if your seeing the Vibraprobe drive the F70 nuts, I'm sure the DetectorPro PI probe would as well.

HH,
Brian
 
I have the f70 with the small coil and probe.......such a tight little setup......man I swing the explorer , than the f70....almost flies out of my hand!!!!
 
mascard1 said:
I have the f70 with the small coil and probe.......such a tight little setup......man I swing the explorer , than the f70....almost flies out of my hand!!!!

mascard1 how would you compare the Explorer and the F70 together ?? I've been tempted to get an Explorer or E-Trac, but their so heavy and slow.
 
The f75 works the same way it is fast and if you know how to slow down and understand the numbers and tones it can pay off...The small coil works great and it is always a good idea to bring it out even if the large coil is doing a great job. I have found a few great targets the larger coil missed because of the landscape and being over grown. Good post!
 
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