Latest find (your ID help please)

[Ian (Victoria)]

Another Victorian era find. Star of David and a rather unique (and politically incorrect blue all-seeing eye)together with a Saturn-like planet. Masonic perhaps. Can any of you fine people help me add to this story?

Ian

 

[Chris in Hamilton (Canada)]

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[Keith IL]

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[Ed SW Fla]

.... you know, gear for the galaxy peekers ... just like us diggers have our own gear. Lucky stuff for the hobby.

 

[Brian(upstateNY)]

<center> on a lot about these two

"The greatest planetary rhythm that was observable to the ancient astronomer- priest was the rhythm of the Jupiter/Saturn conjunction... The Jupiter/Saturn conjunction...actually jumps from astrological sign to sign with great regularity... It is the combination of astrologically rare events that created the Star of Bethlehem.

"There is much evidence to suggest that what we call the Star of David was an alignment of the giant planets Jupiter and Saturn. In ancient Jewish tradition, Jupiter was the planet called the

 

[John M (Ct)]

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[TeeJay]

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[Craig in Alabama]

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[Ian (Victoria)]

Thanks Brian for your research. I also spent some time on the 'net' last night and know that that the 'All Seeing Eye' combined with the Star of David has both Masonic and Fraternity of Eagles (?) symbolic meaning. The god of Saturn also has symbolism. I'm still trying to put the two together.
I am hunting an area which was extensively used during the late 1800's to early 1900's. Victorian (and Edwardian) workmanship is quite easy to identify with its louvered shapes and fine detail. This is the same site from which my previously posted ring came from. Also recently found a couple Boer War finds; a commemerative souvineer spoon and a general service medal.
The beads are pieces of coral which were used as money in some parts of Polynesia way back when, another dating clue. It doesn't compare to the Cancun-type junk that the kids wear these days.

Here is a ring from the same site found last week. The date hallmark puts it at 1890. So, finds from the later part of Her Majesty's long reign.

 

[Keith IL]

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[Brian(upstateNY)]

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[Lawrence in Alabama]

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[Brandon/ny]

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[samwatkins_75]

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[samwatkins_75]

I hate to be the one naysayer but I'd be surprised if your necklace has any real age to it.That style of jewelry was very popular in the mid 1980's with the rock crowd.My Uncle was a Rock guitarist in a few bands in the 80's and he had quite a few pieces of jewelry similiar to the one you found.They still make them as a matter of fact and you can order them in the back of any magazine devoted to heavy metal and rock music.In the 80's you had to look the part of a rock star ..as a matter of fact I would say that this was even more important than having any real talent or musical ability.I think the same still applies today..the pretty boys are usually the ones that make it as opposed to people with real talent...it's all about marketability.Regardless..still a magnificent find and my hats off to you.I'm sure it'll be a real conversation starter.Have you given any thoughts to restoring the necklace portion and wearing it around?How deep did you find it and in what sort of location? well good luck and be sure to post anything else you find.

 

[Elson(La)]

It's a collar for a yard dog,To keep an eye on the place.hehehe Sorry thats the best I can do.

 

[Ian (Victoria)]

Well thanks for the feedback, Boys. I am going out to the site in the morning looking for that gold pocketwatch which I know is there. I have found 8 at this site, none of them silver or gold. I hope find something to post....

ps coins found include Victorian and seated, Edwardian, George V and up. Shiel nickles and Indians. Most coins come up in rough condition and nothing to brag about.

Good luck all

 

[Art SC]

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Read to the bottom and you'll see how this all ties in to the neclace you found!

Kabbala (Kabbalah or Kabala) is an aspect of Jewish mysticism. Some aspects of Kabbala have even been studied and used by non-Jews for many hundred of years. Just like wearing the eye of Ra (Ancient Egyptian) back in the '70's or Celtic Symbols today.

Many Jews, especially those that follow Yiddish (East European) tradition wore charm neclaces or bracelets. The Star of David (denoting faith and strength) is still the most common "charm" to be worn.

But right behind in popularity were charms of protection from the "evil eye". They are mostly worn by women and children and these are usually given to them by their mothers or grandmothers. These are usually called Hamesh (Hebrew) or Hamsa (Arabic) from the root word for the number five in Hebrew. It it usually denoted as a hand or palm with an eye in the palm. The hand is most often pointed up but is also seen pointing down when worn as a pendent. It doesn't appear to be that important which way it's oriented to most Jews, however. One can often see it hanging on walls in Jewish homes much as you might see crosses or crucifixes hanging in the homes of Christians. It's recognizable because it always has two opposing thumbs and no little finger. It is considered effective against disease, physical injury, and the evil eye. Moshe