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Latest digs including historic Pacific Mail Steam Ship Company button.

Cal_Cobra

Active member
Got a hunt in this week and got a merc, silver rosie, two toasted buffalos and toasted V nickle along with a 1909 (dagnabit no S or VDB :rage: ), some marbles, but the neatest find was a two piece button (Scovill backmark) from the Pacific Mail Steam Ship Company (PMSSC).

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The Pacific Mail Steam Ship Company (PMSSC) (1848-1925) is synonymous with that of San Francisco, where the line was based throughout most of its history. Its history is also synonymous with Gold Rush transportation and with Pacific Basin trade and migrations. PMSSC was established in 1848 with lucrative U.S. mail contracts, and the first steamship to sail into San Francisco Bay was the PMSSC steamer CALIFORNIA, arriving on February 28, 1849.

Here is one of the great ironies of history: Departing from New York before the discovery of gold in California had become well known, the wooden side-paddle-wheeler stopped in Panama to pick up a few passengers on route to San Francisco. But at Panama, the ship instead found hundreds of gold-seekers waiting to board. They had made their way down the East Coast after hearing of the discovery at Sutter's Mill, and crossed the Isthmus. Upon reaching San Francisco, all the passengers disembarked for the gold fields east of Sacramento. To the captain's disdain, so did most of the crew!

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Pacific Mail also became the principal means of transport to California in the 19th Century for Japanese immigrants, and for the Chinese immigrants who built the trans-continental railroad. Both migrations vastly enriched California's economy and culture. And PMSSC was vociferous in its defense of the rights of Chinese crew members and workers.

Pacific Mail transitioned into Dollar Line, also San Francisco-based, and in 1938, Dollar Line's name was changed to American President Lines (today's APL, a global container-shipping company).

PMSSC in essence represents the origins of the steamship business on San Francisco Bay. But more important, the company -- born more than 150 years ago in Gold Rush days-- played a critical role in the development of San Francisco, the State of California, the United States, and the Pacific Basin.

The "Tennessee" was on Pacific Mail's Panama-San Francisco run when she ran aground at Tennessee Cove in Marin County in 1853. This Sarony & Major litho, ca. 1850, belonged to Renee Pierre Schwerin of San Francisco, the company's VP and General Manager in the late 19th Century.
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Pacific Mail Company's offices on the southeast corner of First and Market, 1896.
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was the detector and coil used, search mode, and other little related stuff. I'm guessing it was the Racer 2, but ...

Continued great success and finding productive old sites.

Monte
 
An absolutely beautiful find! Thanks for sharing it with us and including all the history and photos. I'm envious.
 
Great finds Brian. Glad to see you have some spots to get out to. Our old sites this year are mostly overgrown with weeds.
 
Monte said:
was the detector and coil used, search mode, and other little related stuff. I'm guessing it was the Racer 2, but ...

Continued great success and finding productive old sites.

Monte

Thanks Monte. Yes sir, it was indeed the R2, with the 10" factory DD coil, and my standard settings (3-tone, sensitivity as high as EMI allows, 98 in this case, iron audio on 2, and break points at 10 and 65). These settings are working pretty well for me. There's a lot of iron and other junk at this site, it's not as bad as ground zero in the ghost towns we detect, but this is a different kind of iron. It's old bolts and nails that have rusted up into larger sized globs of rusted junk.

Any suggestions to change up the settings? I'm not a fan of two tone, just never took to it, but if I had a compelling reason to use it, I would. For most of this site maximum depth isn't as desirable as much as unmasking is.

Thanks for looking,
Brian
 
Thanks Tom and Gregg.

It's challenging to find good sites around here, I'm always envious of all the ghost towns you guys have to detect without the trek I have to get to them :detecting:
 
Cal_Cobra said:
Thanks Monte. Yes sir, it was indeed the R2, with the 10" factory DD coil, and my standard settings (3-tone, sensitivity as high as EMI allows, 98 in this case, iron audio on 2, and break points at 10 and 65). These settings are working pretty well for me. There's a lot of iron and other junk at this site, it's not as bad as ground zero in the ghost towns we detect, but this is a different kind of iron. It's old bolts and nails that have rusted up into larger sized globs of rusted junk.
My most-used search coils on the Racer 2 are the 'OOR' or round 5½" DD;s, which each perform very similarly, and the end result is quite impressive, especially in any dense iron littered site. My 2nd most-used coil is Makro's 5½X10 DD, like you were using. I seldom rely on the standard 7X11 due to the increased amount of debris I encounter at most of the sites I choose to hunt, but the 5½X10 coil does aid in coverage and detection depth ... if it is a more mild to moderate target encounter site.

My Racer 2 settings preferences are also close to yours as follows:

2-Tone Mode:95 Gain -- 03 ID Filter -- 02 Iron Audio Volume -- 10 Tone Break-Point ------ 10/50 Audio Tone Levels

3-Tone Mode:99 Gain -- 03 ID Filter -- 02 Iron Audio Volume -- 10/65 Tone Break-Point -- 10/30/70 Audio Tone Levels

Beach Mode:90 Gain --- 05 ID Filter -- 02 Iron Audio Volume -- 10 Tone Break-Point ------ 10/50 Audio Tone Levels

Deep Mode:85 Gain ---- 03 ID Filter -- 02 Iron Audio Volume -- 10 Tone Break-Point ------ 10/50 Audio Tone Levels

As seen, th4e main difference in primary set-up that is saves is the Gain setting, and I adjusted it to be workable for most of the places I hunt. It's 'functional' because it is so easy to make quick changes with the Racer 2 incase have to reduce the Gain for stability, or increase it if conditions allow.


Cal_Cobra said:
Any suggestions to change up the settings? I'm not a fan of two tone, just never took to it, but if I had a compelling reason to use it, I would. For most of this site maximum depth isn't as desirable as much as unmasking is.

Thanks for looking,
Brian
Nope, no suggestions because the Racer 2 allows each user to figure out what works for them while still allowing us to make quick changes afield as needed or desired. I do know what you are saying about using the 3-Tone Discriminate mode a lot because I also hunt in densely littered sites. I prefer the 3-Tone search for most Urban Coin Hunting as well as Relic Hunting in places with a lot of mixed metal trash, especially rusty tin, iron washers and similar sheet iron or flat iron shaped debris.

However, I know it takes many people a bit of time to warm up to the VCO enhanced 2-Tone search mode, but it can be well worth it when hunting places where the primary junk to deal with is iron nails, cut wire [size=small](fencing, etc.)[/size] and similar ferrous pieces. In those areas, where trash is low-to-moderate and the main iron trash is nails, wire and other smaller, less annoying stuff, I prefer to use a 5½X10 Concentric [size=small](on my Relic)[/size] or 5½X10 DD [size=small](on my Gold + and Racer 2)[/size]. There is ample separation when targets are not too close and the iron nail handling is quite good in 2-Tone and with a mid-sized coil.

Now I need to figure out your 'secret settings' to nab '16-D Merc. dimes and I'll be happy. :unsure:

Monte
 
Monte said:
Now I need to figure out your 'secret settings' to nab '16-D Merc. dimes and I'll be happy. :unsure:

Monte

No secrets, but I'm finding that by going very slow, and I mean very slow, I'm pulling up signals that if you cover the ground at a normal detecting pace, not fast, but what I'd consider a normal standard detecting pace, they will not come up, on any machine. By slowing WAY down, I've been able to bring up some previously unheard signals and my 1916D Mercury dime was one such signal.

Ironically I've recently dug two other 1916 dimes at this site, one was a 1916 Barber dime in XF condition, and the other was a 1916S Mercury dime in VF-XF condition.

I've also been digging a lot of early wheaties, I'm hoping that a(nother) 1909S VDB wheat cent will be dug, but this time by myself as another hunter found one there a few weeks ago, although personally I'd much rather dig a 1901S Barber quarter :detecting:

hh,
Brian
 
on Findmall, AHRPS and other Forums related to how I hunt [size=small](with a good Tesoro model, a couple of White's models, and especially with my favorite FORS CoRe, FORS Relic, FORS Gold +, Makro Racer 2 and Gold Racers)[/size], I practically preach using a slow-and-methodical sweep speed. Yes, in open areas with sparse targets you can get away with a moderate-to-fast sweep speed [size=small](using a mid-size to standard-size search coil)[/size] a lot of the time, but in the really nasty, iron-littered sort of sites you and I like to search and put the smaller coils to work, slower is very beneficial, with ample overlapping and a straight side-to-side sweep w/o arcing the coil.


Cal_Cobra said:
No secrets, but I'm finding that by going very slow, and I mean very slow, I'm pulling up signals that if you cover the ground at a normal detecting pace, not fast, but what I'd consider a normal standard detecting pace, they will not come up, on any machine. By slowing WAY down, I've been able to bring up some previously unheard signals and my 1916D Mercury dime was one such signal.
In the dense trash and weedy/brushy conditions I also work very slow and 'scribble' the coil in and around an area. The Racer 2, like my Relic and CoRe, sure does a great job of unmasking good stuff for me, excelling over most anything else I have used.

All too often I see folks out there using a too-fast sweep speed, and often a wrong coil, and then they blame the detector if they are not very successful. Good detectors with wrong techniques won't bring the results we hope for. The results you are having are the result of great site selection, excellent detector and coil choice, and you can tip your hat for using the right search techniques. Now, keep thinning that 'bucket list' and happy hunting.

I hope you can make it to the 4th Welcome-to-Hunt Outing for one or both weekend periods. I will be getting in to the Angel Lake RV campground in Wells, Nevada on September 1st, and be staying thru the 11th. So either make it for the Labor Day Weekend or following weekend, or both, and have some fun. Who knows, one of the towns just might hold another '16-D Mercury 10¢ [size=small](it's main activity included that mintage era)[/size] and many other old keeper opportunities.

I am hoping that by then some of the other locations we hunted last year will be less weedy than they were on our May WTHO, but even then the weediest of them was still quite productive, at least for a couple of the attendees. I think the most success came to those using a Racer series or FORS series detector then, too, with either the smaller coils or a 5½X10.

Hope to see you in just four weeks!

Monte
 
Monte I'm probably going to be in Tonopah Labor Day Weekend, and then I'll try to make the 4th Welcome-to-Hunt Outing. It's looking good that I'll be able to come out the 6th or 7th and stay through the following weekend. I working on time off and travel coordination, but so far, it looks like I might be able to make it. We had a great time on the September WTHO!!

HH,
Brian
 
at our 4th WTHO out of Wells, Nevada. 3rd - I wish you the best of success in Tonopah.

As most know who go there, it is one of the trashiest places to hunt, and it has been dug and screened and re-screened all over the place. That said, my friends Debbie & Eric B. out of Utah made a journey to Tonopah about 1-1½ months ago and she didn't screen at all, only detected. She's the one, and that is the location, I hinted to in a prior post or e-mail to WHTO Contact List folks who found 2 Barber Dimes, 2 Barber Quarters, and 3 Trade Tokens, with the better one being from Carson City.

Maybe it will be your turn to have some good fortune, just as you have been lately. Were the recoveries made today from the same location as the others you've posted this past week?

When you get into Wells, give me a call. My oldest son, Monte Jr., and I will be at Angel Lake RV Park in Wells in spaces 19 & 20. I'll be in the smaller 'A' type pop-up hard-sided trailer. You can show me your Tonopah finds and I'll let ypou know how folks did who made the Labor Day Weekend half of the Outing.

Continued beat success!

Monte
 
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