I had been hunting a spot for several years until the owner decided to build a new house on the spot last year. I took a ride up to kill some time and found where he had dumped the dump. For every bottle I got there were 10 that didn't survive. Still managed to walk away with a few keepers. Also pulled out some misc. items Eagle button etc. What was once a great place to dig bottles is now his basement. The only plus side is he said there was an even older site in the woods. I'll find it, trust me.