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Last January I made a goal of 500 nickels.

Dancer

Well-known member
Nickels, often hide in amongst pull tabs , aluminum slaw and what ever else. Sometimes, sometimes something of gold can be found in that mess also. Going out clad hunting sometimes lucky to bring back , maybe 2-3. But, where I had the best luck was going back over places that had deep sod. (Top soil) Places where others and yes myself skimmed all the easy shallow targets.
Saturday I was just about finished hunting out this area and really didn't have much to show. Decided to go back over the grass around a basketball hoop. The soil easily gets down to 6-9 inches in that place before hitting hard pack. I'd gotten most of the junk out of there during recent hunts. So slowed down and hit couple deep nickels. Than some more trash, than they started coming. Ended up with 20 out of that little area. As I was leaving I wondered who left those nickels through the years? Sorry to admit ,I'm the biggest culprit. This year I've gone over quite a few of those deep area's , finding a lot of left targets. A lot of nickels, a little gold, and some silver to boot. Not to mention, buckets of trash. I imagine most machines could have found these targets, I just happen to swing the AT Pro & the Infinium mostly. Right now I have 601 nickels, but I'm retired.
 
Most people cherry pick while clad hunting so there are many nickels in the ground. If I am hunting a place where I find many nickels, it is a good bet that it has been hunted pretty hard. I usually find between 2500 and 3000 coins a year and have never found more than 300 nickels. I usually start out the day chasing nickel signals, but quickly tire of digging the trash that comes in like a nickel. Almost every piece of gold that I have dug has been like a nickel signal so I expect that you will start finding your share of gold. I found 7 gold rings this year chasing nickels and tabs. I wish hunting gold jewelery was more exact, but I guess if it was easy, nobody would find any. The AT Pro is a very good detector for finding gold jewelery so your better days are ahead of you. 600 nickels is an unbelievable amount and you are to be congratulated for finding that amount.
 
Me and the Wife watched a movie the other night called "The Big Year"...it was about 'bird watchers'...how they try to see and identify as many birds as possible in one year...Very strategic and funny how they operated!..equally immersed in their hobby as we are in ours....The Wife could tell right away what I was thinking!:rofl:.

What would make a 'Big Year' next year a detectorist guy can shoot for? Everybody needs a goal, or some sort of trophy they are after?

10k coins? 100 silvers? 1k nickels? a rare CW buckle? 100gr+beach gold? 4k Q's? 2k D's? 5k P's? Chains? 1800's or older coin? Meteorites? Nuggets?:shrug:

Undecided here but thinking about that nickel quest you went on Dancer...I've highgraded all the Q's and D's but left a lot of nickels in the dirt around here.... I'm thinking, hunt the same old spots, but go for the nickels? Or say 'tahellwiddit' and get some tanks and dive for gold?:shrug:

I punched my '10k coin' card back in 2012, got my 100gr+beach gold tag stamped last year...but I never have gone on a dedicated nickel quest..One thing, this sport is so vast, a fellow certainly can never probe the depths of all the skill subsets....I like the aspect that you and RLOH mentioned...gold hides in those nickel tones..'The Big Year' subject could make for some good Winter banter around here...:thumbup:
Mud
 
Hi Dancer-----I'm just curious----when you were doing the hunting to find those 601 nickels---how many gold rings did you find (in that range)?-------I have my wifes & my detectors set up to find the nickels (opened up disc in that area)---but we still don't find many gold rings.----I know most gold rings do come in the foil range but it seems like there should be more that come in the nickel range than there has been.------Like RLOH said (in so many words)----finding gold rings ain't easy!-------We're too old & haven't got the backs to open up disc & dig everything in the U.S. anymore:)---so guess we (the wife & I) will have to settle for whatever rings (or jewelry) that shows up in that nickel range.-----------Del
 
D&P-OR said:
Hi Dancer-----I'm just curious----when you were doing the hunting to find those 601 nickels---how many gold rings did you find (in that range)?-------I have my wifes & my detectors set up to find the nickels (opened up disc in that area)---but we still don't find many gold rings.----I know most gold rings do come in the foil range but it seems like there should be more that come in the nickel range than there has been.------Like RLOH said (in so many words)----finding gold rings ain't easy!-------We're too old & haven't got the backs to open up disc & dig everything in the U.S. anymore:)---so guess we (the wife & I) will have to settle for whatever rings (or jewelry) that shows up in that nickel range.-----------Del

Hi Del, well 601 nickels, many more tabs, bits of alum slaw. This was my best year for gold rings (5) Yepper that's it. I notice some guys who mostly wade fresh/salt water beaches will do much better. But even they got to find places that aren't hunted much. All my gold came in the nickel range this year. In the past, some light gold a little below that range. Best advice I can give you and your wife is. You got to keep hunting for pockets that have been overlooked by other hunters. Areas of parks, ballparks, old yards, beaches. When you start finding coins, you guys got make it your sport to keep hitting it till it runs dry. Strange example. One of my gold rings came at a place where I only got six clad coins that day. So just hunt for fun, exercise, remember every penny is Treasure also. Much like you guys been doing. Good luck &have fun.
Dancer
 
Finding a nickel puts a big smile on my face, because know that I'm on the right track to finding a gold ring.

tabman
 
I have found 116 gold rings. I find that most gold rings come in the foil range.After all who wears the most gold rings. Women. And they most often wear several at once. If they were heavy rings they would not wear several. I believe about 60% of gold rings (womens) are to be found in the foil range. range. My saying is I don't have the time or the back to dig every pull tab.Check all of your wife's or girl friends rings with your detector. See what range they fall into.Almost all white gold and platinum rings fall in the foil range. Depending on the site....if at a beach or swimming area I dig everything but coins. Why waste time digging clad coins when looking for gold. That time could be spent looking for gold rings. If at a site loaded with pull tabs I will probably notch out everything but nickels and foil. I don't even want to hear the coins, otherwise I may stop and dig them . In the nickel and foil range only, you will not dig many targets. Beaver tails, can slaw or large foil. My best ring find appraised for $2000.00. Found at a swimming area. During a drought. What used to be water was then dry land......Just my 2 cents worth.....Jack
 
Hard core Jack, and that's why you got them rings. What machine you usually swing?
Dancer

I have found 116 gold rings. I find that most gold rings come in the foil range.After all who wears the most gold rings. Women. And they most often wear several at once. If they were heavy rings they would not wear several. I believe about 60% of gold rings (womens) are to be found in the foil range. range. My saying is I don't have the time or the back to dig every pull tab.Check all of your wife's or girl friends rings with your detector. See what range they fall into.Almost all white gold and platinum rings fall in the foil range. Depending on the site....if at a beach or swimming area I dig everything but coins. Why waste time digging clad coins when looking for gold. That time could be spent looking for gold rings. If at a site loaded with pull tabs I will probably notch out everything but nickels and foil. I don't even want to hear the coins, otherwise I may stop and dig them . In the nickel and foil range only, you will not dig many targets. Beaver tails, can slaw or large foil. My best ring find appraised for $2000.00. Found at a swimming area. During a drought. What used to be water was then dry land......Just my 2 cents worth.....Jack[/quote]
 
jackintexas said:
I have found 116 gold rings.
Was that 116 gold rings just this year? Impressive, then again, I hunt some sort of a beach maybe one or two times in any given year so they haven't been great jewelry producers for me.


jackintexas said:
I find that most gold rings come in the foil range.After all who wears the most gold rings. Women. And they most often wear several at once. If they were heavy rings they would not wear several. I believe about 60% of gold rings (womens) are to be found in the foil range.
In fifty years of avid detecting I have found 2 gold rings that had a VDI read-out in the 1¢/10¢ range. Both were made in Hong Kong and marked [size=small](when translated)[/size] 24K or actually "100% gold" as it was read to me. Back in the late '70s I evaluated a lot of gold and silver jewelry using different models that I had and used, adjusting the Discrimination to see where some of the gold fell out. With some of the models out there, the minimum Discrimination setting was still too high to respond to some of the gold chains and very thin children's gold rings or many small pendants and ear rings.

In about late '84 I tinkered with some of the Target ID detectors, checking both the Discrimination acceptance level on the lower end, and the visual Target ID display. It still confirmed what I had learned years before, that a lot of the thin gold jewelry, based upon it's alloy make-up, size, shape and position, 'read' very low and many detectors wouldn't respond to a lot of it in the Discriminate mode.

Also, confirmed with those early TID models that had a range or band for 'TABS" that was just a bit above the US 5¢ coin, is where only a few typical women's rings and most men's gold rings ranged [size=small](through 5¢ 'nickel' coins up into the old ring-pull tab range)[/size], while the vast majority of gold rings and other gold jewelry I found might read ± the 5¢ zone and down into the very low FOIL or into the upper IRON range. Most of the gold jewelry was women's, but some larger gold, like thick men's neck chains, did run up-scale.

Tesoro acknowledged the poor gold detection capability and in March of '90 came out with their Bandido model which featured what Jack Gifford referred to as ED-120 Discrimination. That Expanded or Enhanced Discrimination range improved the very low conductive target detection. While some other manufacturers still had a few models that did adjust down low like that, I noticed more low-conductive range improvement in the Discrimination circuitry across the board in years that followed. I had been finding some thin or small low-conductive gold jewelry with the White's models I was using and a lot of 'average' or 'typical' size gold using my Tesoro's and the copy-cat circuitry Gold Mountain Technology Cobra and GMT-1650 models, and a few others.

My years of results would suggest that maybe more like 80% of the women's and child's gold rings fall in the small to lower FOIL range, while some read down into an upper IRON range, as do most ear rings, thin to medium gold chains, and a lot of the smaller gold pendants. The rest ranged up from there into and through the NICKEL and TAB range.


jackintexas said:
My saying is I don't have the time or the back to dig every pull tab.
I have ample time, but I am with you when it comes to a very functional and endurance level back .... that's sure a limiting part of the game plan. :( Still, even though I don't care for pull tabs and similar conductive range junk, I do like gold rings and other 'keepers' that fall in that range. Some old Trade Tokens fall in there as well as other goodies. So, for me, a lot depends upon the site I am hunting. I never use more Discrimination than just barely enough to reject common iron nails ... or lower to zero ... and I might glance at a VDI read-out [size=small](which I prefer to use than a TID 'zone')[/size] but still recover the target.

Like I said, a lot depends on the site you search and because the getty-down and getty-up routine is slow and painful, I don't even hunt grassy areas like I used to ... if I can help it. Most of my time is concentrated on non-urban areas, old locations, or renovation work, and when I do hunt in bigger towns, most of the time is spent making "marathon runs" around to woodchip and sand-filled playgrounds. Yes, pull tabs and trash are there, but so are a lot of gold rings and coins and recovery is simple. I only bend down and pick up a target after I toe-scuff the material to get to it. Of course since about 90% or more of the targets I 'scuff up' are at least partly visible, I can use the 'ignore' method and not bend over to get the pull tabs. :) I just scuff them aside to check the spot and make sure no good targets were being masked.


jackintexas said:
Check all of your wife's or girl friends rings with your detector.
You are right, but I don't have a wife or a girl friend anymore so I just rely on all the results I get afield that keeps confirming past results.


jackintexas said:
Almost all white gold and platinum rings fall in the foil range.
I find more yellow gold, and a lot of it is in that FOIL range.


jackintexas said:
Depending on the site....if at a beach or swimming area I dig everything but coins. Why waste time digging clad coins when looking for gold. That time could be spent looking for gold rings.
I still recover coins and other keepers and just keep hoping good gold or silver jewelry will come my way.


jackintexas said:
If at a site loaded with pull tabs I will probably notch out everything but nickels and foil. I don't even want to hear the coins, otherwise I may stop and dig them. In the nickel and foil range only, you will not dig many targets. Beaver tails, can slaw or large foil.
I never use Notch Discrimination, and I don't mind recovering coins. For decades now I have cleaned and counted all of a year's "flash money" to take to the back for Christmas shopping money, as well as sell my gold and silver jewelry. Again, it depends on where we live, the sites we can hunt, and the time and effort we put into it, but before I moved to a very small Eastern Oregon town in September of last year, most of my life I have lived in the large metro area of Portland Oregon. There you will, find a lot of parks and schools with woodchip or sand-filled playgrounds and volleyball courts and in almost any year my Coin Finds Tally just about matched the $$$ income as selling all of my Gold and Silver Jewelry. There were a few exceptions, but that was a normal expectation.


jackintexas said:
My best ring find appraised for $2000.00. Found at a swimming area. During a drought. What used to be water was then dry land.
My best gold rings were valued at over $12,000, about $8,000 and one at $4,250. I located to owners of the last two, and the first one I found on a contract search. Otherwise, the best I found and converted to $$$ for myself was just under that $2000 mark, and it sure doesn't happen often. :(

I said I am not much of a beach hunter but there is a popular use beach about an hour-and-a-half drive from where I live. I haven't hunted that big river beach yet, but I plan to this coming spring and I hope it has plenty of keepers to find, both coins and jewelry.

Best of success to you in your jewelry hunting!

Monte
 
To Monte: All my gold rings were not found this year. but several years. I am having a hard time making it 117 gold rings. I am 82 years old and don't get to hunt like I used to. A friend and I are going to try our luck today. I use notch a lot. I call it selective discrimination. Dancer: Probably about two thirds of the ri gs I have found were found with a Garrett Ace 250. The Ace 250 is not a high frequency machine, but seems to hit gold very good.Just goes to show you don't have to have a high dollar detector to be successful. Most of the other rings I found with an XLT. I have 7 detectors. Only one I am not able to notch out coins.. Omega 8000. Recently I got an MX5. also have an AT pro, DFX , XLT, Ace 250 & several old detectors like the Big Bud, Mark one, King Cobra ect I found quite a few water hunting. The AT Pro is the perfect water detector for me. On land it is hard not to hunt with my XLT. ....Jack
 
My five gold rings this year-Two were found by the Ace250, The AT Pro , Compadre, and the Infinium each finding one . All 4 detectors hunted about the same amount of time. (A lot) I too stay on a good site until I think it's about busted. I'll dig & clean just about every coin I find. Cash em in along with G/ S in December. But I'm just a pup! (65)
The above is to agreeing with Monte & Texas Jack
There continues to be a lot of good info coming on this subject, And also to Tabman, Yep, getting that good solid nickel hit sure gets ones attention !


To Monte: All my gold rings were not found this year. but several years. I am having a hard time making it 117 gold rings. I am 82 years old and don't get to hunt like I used to. A friend and I are going to try our luck today. I use notch a lot. I call it selective discrimination. Dancer: Probably about two thirds of the ri gs I have found were found with a Garrett Ace 250. The Ace 250 is not a high frequency machine, but seems to hit gold very good.Just goes to show you don't have to have a high dollar detector to be successful. Most of the other rings I found with an XLT. I have 7 detectors. Only one I am not able to notch out coins.. Omega 8000. Recently I got an MX5. also have an AT pro, DFX , XLT, Ace 250 & several old detectors like the Big Bud, Mark one, King Cobra ect I found quite a few water hunting. The AT Pro is the perfect water detector for me. On land it is hard not to hunt with my XLT. ....Jack[/quote]
 
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