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last couple of hunts! lots of catchin' up to do.

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GRAY GHOST

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hello all! like i said, i haven't posted much lately, so i reckon it's time to play catchup. oh man. i've had some good hunts here lately. these relics and coins pictured came from three different spots around the petersburg, va. area. many rivets, spencer casings, flat and floral buttons, a belt keeper and odd looking token my buddy pete found, a brass chain, a thick solid brass "o", brass buckles, and even an old square cufflink are in there. a 1928 cent and 1936 cent are also there. i forgot to put my lead poker chip and a field made nipple protector, i'll get them next time. lots of frags and fuse pieces were found, too. theyr'e still in the tank. wer'e still looking for that nice cs beltplate or some more cs state seal buttons. theyr'e out there, just gotta put my coil on top of 'em.
i've found a huge variety of bullets here lately... kinda unusual. three ringers, a few sharps and spencers, some merrill carbines, some .44 balls, a .69 musketball, a colt .44, a piece of iron grapeshot, a .45 cal. whitworth, [a rare one] and a couple of spencers with the brass and ends. i even got a nice ringtail sharps - theyr'e pretty rare to find around here. an enfield or two rounds it out. there's about 25 more bullets i found but haven't posted, theyr'e the real ugly shot 'uns. it's always cool to pull an old flatbutton out the ground. i got some cool florals this time, too. wer'e doing good here. i found a really neat "moline wagon co.,light and durable ride" pin. moline wagon co. was started in 1864 and i believe sold out to john deere after the turn of the century. it's getting to be a good day to pull a couple of bullets a day and a good button or two out the ground anymore. but, we keep varying our searches and trying out new things in old spots - it's worked well for us. thanks for checkin' it out, and keep on gettin' it! hh!
 
Nice variety of relics you got there; what do you think the item is with the guys face on it next to the small buckle? Is that the token you mentioned?
 
hi confcav, i think it might be a bangle from a bracelet - there was once a hole there that apparently rubbed through, being real thin. it's brass, and it is an odd looking piece. the back is blank as well. thanks, and hh!
 
i'm thinkin' it might be a shot whitworth, scott. it reads about .45 cal in the center of the bullet, and is an inch and a third [1.330"] long. a buddy and me were looking thru some books trying to figure out what exactly it was... until we came across a section on whitworth bullets. it seems to match up everywhere. there is a shallow hollow in the base, too. if it is a whitworth, then it's a rare one indeed! it'll be my first, too. thanks, and hh!
 
Gray Ghost....I'm thinking the same thing. I have only see one like it. It was dug on Old Church Road that runs from Cold Harbor to Old Church. This was about 30 yrs ago and my buddy who found it has seance passed. I don't know what happened to it. TomB
 
If that bullet is a whitworth, it is indeed a rare one. I've found a few but none quite as long and skinny as yours. Congrats.
 
Here's a link I ran across and it has a bullet that looks very similar to the one long skinny bullet that everyone was questioning.
Here's the link.....
http://www.tennesseelead.com/
Here's a pic.......

[attachment 123140 solidbaseDimmickbullet.jpg]

Here's some imfo on it from the link.....

TL303 sold Mason & McKee #88 solid base Dimmick bullet. You will find this bullet to be in excellent dropped condition. The patina is a lite white colour & there is NOT a single patina chip. The one ring is crisp, well defined. The solid base is smooth, verry nice also. About 0.355 x 0.935 inches. $65.00

Check out the link as there are tons of bullets worth looking at.
Good luck diggin'!!
 
It appears to be a two-piece bullet by the pic; if so I think I've found the base that matches the lower section. Thanks for providing the research on this.
 
Guess I'm confused; the second pic must be the entire bullet and not just a lower section I thought it was. Thought the ring was a separation point between 2 parts. Sorry for the confusion, but I found something similiar to the lower section and thought it was related. Apologies.
 
hi i just found a pin from the moline wagon co. today looks just like the one u found but its in great shape cuz its been in the ceiling , its gold colored maybe plated ,i know moline wagon co was at the worlds fair in 1904 st. louis I also found a few paper items with a date of 1904 at the same time
 
GG, it appears your bullet in question has been flattened somewhat on its base?? There were very few Whitworth rifles to make it into southern hands. 40 arrived late in the war and 20 went to Lee's army and 20 went to Hood's army. By the time Hood arrived in Nashville, only 16 of his sharpshooters were armed. All of the Whitworth bullets found in his army's path were hexagonal (supplied with the rifles) and cylindrical (field cast from the molds that arrived with the rifles). They measure 1.41-1.428 inches in length (cyl. only). We know the AOT had hex's in Nashville as we've dug both fired and dropped. Weight would be 524 grains on the cylindrical bullet. There are numerous examples that are similar and used in Kerr rifles and other target rifles of the period. Continue to keep us posted on your findings. You should be able to research the area you found it in and know if the CSA had any sharpshooters there.
 
hi, csa ghost. you, as well as a few others, have got me to thinkin' hard about the bullet in question. i appreciate the time you and the others have taken to figure out exactly what it is that i found, 'cause lord knows i tried. looking a little closer, it looks to be a very faint ring a little more than halfway down the bullet. the base is indeed crimped almost shut, almost hiding a very shallow hole. the bullet is obviously fired. it is a strange one.
i could try to get more pics of the bullet if you think that would help. it bugs the heck outta me not knowing what it is. it was found near - about a mile - from the haw's shop or enon church battlefield. the battle itself was primarily a large cavalry action, and took place i believe in the summer of 1864. infantry of both sides was present, but apparently not used much. it was found in the same high ground area as many shot sharps with spencer casings. across the road, we started finding lots of dropped three ringers, yankee brass and yankee buttons. hmmmm....
thanks, and let me know if more pics are needed. i'd like to know myself. hh!
 
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