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Lake Looter 250's maiden voyage. Warning!! Very long post!!

khouse

Active member
OK, so my family went on a short trip over the weekend. First off I hunted the water for a total of 9 hours over two mornings. I would guess to say that 6 of those hours the detector was completely under the water. Not a drop seeped into the box I housed the 250 into. Also the detector would float with about 1.5 inches above the water when released. The 250 worked flawlessly in the fresh clear water. Not ever having detected deeper that my knees I have some thoughts that you water hunters already know.
1st. Fish love to swim around the coil.
2nd. Fish love to eat the fines that fall from the sand scoop.
3rd. Fish love metal detectorists!
4th. As you proceed to deeper water you body and movements are increasingly in slow motion.
5th. When you are chin deep in water it's hard to push the scoop into the sand. Also if a wave hits you then you loose you balance easily.
6th. You need a very LARGE scoop. I have a very nice stainless steel laser cut long handled scoop. It's 5 inches in diameter and round. I found that this scoop is too small. I will be building me the ultimate scoop myself.
7th. When it's dark you need a head lamp to look into the scoop and the bottom of the lake.
8th. Take some beef jerky as you get hungry fast.
9th. When you have been walking in the deep water for 3 hours it's hard to walk in the shallow for a while.
10th. It's good to have your permit on you when the park ranger tells you that you have to leave!
11th. You use your scoop handle as a crutch to keep your balance in the deep. Make sure your handle is extra long.
12. Make a floating screed with 1/4 inch mesh. I had about a dozen good hits that fell through my scoop.
13. Square tabs seem to have great swimming abilities. I chased some for at least 2 feet as they would move everywhere. Sometimes they floated around and sometimes my scoop just moved them around. I think my mega scoop is going to help on this one.
14. Remove the electronic device from your keys. Only take the key itself into the water in your supposedly water proof bag!
15. Take a towel to place your wet butt in the drivers seat.
16. Too many zippered pockets on your swimming suit is a good thing.
17. Goose poo doesn't break up easily as your coil grinds over the top of it.
18. Even though it was 95 degrees after hours in the water you butt and thighs feel ice cold for hours after the hunt.
19. Nickels look like half dollars in the water at 5 feet deep.
20. Most of my jewelry finds were from waist to chest high.
Just a couple of things I put together for those who haven't water hunted or the ones that getting ready to.

I found 6 rings 2 are junk the others are not
4 jewelry items
1- .925 earing
12 quarters
13 dimes
12 nickels
25 cents
23 tabs and foil finds
I imagined every one of my nickel and foil digs to be rings as I shook my scoop.
 
You are an inspiration ring man from Mo. I need to make me a lake looter. I have places to hunt, just can't get into the deep.
 
Hey Kenny great huntin',
that's really good for a first time in the juice.
Well done on waterproofing your Ace and having the skill to use it in these conditions.
So you think the water's cold out there (ha ha ha) ya would'nt try it here I dunno what temp it is but it wouldn't be good for a brass monkey.

:crazy::crazy::crazy:
 
John,
I got sick of seeing all the finds on the beach forum. I just had to do my small part in finding jewelry. I'm smack dab in the middle of all the coast lines in Missouri. So I just did what I had to do. It's been in the mid 90's here for some time and the water feels fine.
 
The water felt really warm maybe 75 to 80 degrees. I really don't know. The air temp has been getting up to 98 degrees. But I guess I'm pretty wimpy because I felt cold hours after leaving the water. It was pretty strange. You two have got to be tough!
 
1st. Fish love to swim around the coil.
2nd. Fish love to eat the fines that fall from the sand scoop.
3rd. Fish love metal detectorists!

Yep

4th. As you proceed to deeper water you body and movements are increasingly in slow motion.
And dont fight it - go with the flow.

5th. When you are chin deep in water it's hard to push the scoop into the sand. Also if a wave hits you then you loose you balance easily.
Some folks use dive weights.

6th. You need a very LARGE scoop. I have a very nice stainless steel laser cut long handled scoop. It's 5 inches in diameter and round. I found that this scoop is too small. I will be building me the ultimate scoop myself.
Make sure it is tough.

7th. When it's dark you need a head lamp to look into the scoop and the bottom of the lake.
12. Make a floating screed with 1/4 inch mesh. I had about a dozen good hits that fell through my scoop.

Then you just dump your scoop and keep going. Look at the goods in the sifter, not your scoop

18. Even though it was 95 degrees after hours in the water you butt and thighs feel ice cold for hours after the hunt.
Regardless of the air temp, the cooler water saps the energy from your body, Add the sun and the reflections off the water and the wind and the resistance of the water... well, you can get tired pretty good from water hunting. Imagine the ocean beach, with its waves and currents.
19. Nickels look like half dollars in the water at 5 feet deep.
Everything does
20. Most of my jewelry finds were from waist to chest high.
I'd change that to shin to chest high.

Pretty good list, kenny.
 
Great Going Kenny, It's tough out there but that's were the stuff is, Glad to hear the unit kept dry, Great Finds you got, and as you go theirs alot of tricks you'll learn, Just don't make your scoop to heavy because your the one that has to carry it, mine is a 6" opening and i do pretty good with that, Glad you had a good time and found good stuff. Harold in Fla.
 
Harold,
I was just so pleased that the 250 stayed dry. You never know until you give it a work out. I will make the scoop large and lite. I also see where there is a lot of water resistance on the rod, coil and cable. I see more mods my my future to resolve water resistance of these components. Thanks for the encouragement!
 
Man alive, that's some sweet loot!! I loved all of your observations and they are dead on!! I take a folding lawn chair and come out and rest and warm up every hour or so when I water hunt. I always take a dry change of clothes, too!!

Don't you just love the Aces in the water??? They really seem to come to life in fresh water. I've dug some deep, tiny targets with mine.

Excellent report and finds too!! Congrats and welcome to the Ace water hunting club!!
 
Thanks BigCat! It sure is different in the deep. Another thing I noticed was how much water resistance there was on the rod,coil and cable. The water detector manufacturers should address this issue. If they made the coils with a tapered outer rim, thin oval rod and run the cable through the rod how much easier it would be to swing. I'm going to work on just those issues myself. It may take me a while, but I'm going to try.
 
Congratulations on your succesful maiden voyage. You sure did great on the rings, you are almost enticing me to go back to water hunting, but I am 75 with legs that give out and put me on my butt, so picture me in waders in deep water and I fall and the wife is a widow. Keep up your great water hunting you are doing exceptional. HH Ken
 
Ken,
If you wear a life jacket you could fall and be saved. You could get out there between your waist and chest deep. You can do it.
 
Sounds like you had a great hunt Kenny. I guess you will be buying yourself a wet suit soon to keep you warm and buoyant. thanks for the info, as it gives us land lovers some idea of how to prepare for such a hunt.
Mick Evans.
 
make that sucker as big as you can lift when its full of lake bottom.
that way you get your target on the first try. don't carry it, put it in a sifter and let the sifter sort out your targets.

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spend your time looking for targets in the bottom not your scoop.

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the waterproof mod looks really good. you did a great job. i'm betting there will be many more just like it soon!
 
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