Just received my xl pro...it's one hot little machine. I'm curious on something....

[Hotcz70]

It easily nails my 6" silver dime and pennies that are in my test garden. What I was really surprised at is that it did it's best to hit on my 8" silver dime buried to test my SE coils on! I jacked up the signal balance as far as I could and still remain stable and it did hit the 8" dime a couple of times...but the needle would peg all the way to the right?? I tried it a zillion times and it did the same thing. Even with the signal balance close to preset...it would give a 50% decent audio reading...but the needle would jump all the way to the right at dollar?? Is this normal? I thought it might be just like my SE at the peak of it's ID capabilities. It will give a decent audio but the cursor won't lock on the coin area...it jumps around some. I just thought it was strange the xl pro would hit the 8" dime occasionally...but the meter would not ID correctly. It just immediately jumps all the way over to the far right?
Oh yeah...ALL of this with the killer 5.3 coil on.
Any thoughts?

 

[jmaryt]

hello!..bryce!
how OLD is the soil matrix that the coins are buried in?..in other words ,how old is the test garden itself?..also,is the coin buried perfectly flat,or tilted?.at depth ANY detector MUST electronically
"see" the target,and the more "mass" presented to the receive coil the better!..generally if the soil matrix is old,and the detector is PROPERLY ground balanced,with the signal balance adjusted properly for the soil conditions,THEN the pro SHOULD "see" that dime at 8" i would try a faster sweep over the dime to see if you can get more of a solid "hit"!..the pro is designed to give better depth with a "faster"
sweep speed...also have you dug this dime up before,then re buried it in the same spot?..ALWAYS remember that detectors get their BEST depth
in actual field conditions,and an undisturbed "OLD" soil matrix!

regards!
(h.h!)
j.t.

 

[jmaryt]

also may i add that i really DON'T give "TWO S****" about coin gardens anyway,because as i HAVE experienced,and i can attest that the pro will consistently "pull" silver quarters and dimes from 10".just make sure that the signal balance control is adjusted PROPERLY for the soil conditions you encounter!..ground balancing,AND signal balance adjusted properly is the key to the xl pro,and almost forgot! the absolute "best" "coin killer" on the market,the 5.3 bullseye,or 5.3 "black max!"

 

[Hotcz70]

the xl pro to even hit that dime at 8". I have no faith in a test garden anyway and just have it there for testing coils...detectors...and for cheap fun. The test garden is less than 6 months old...but the xl pro hit and ID'd the 6" dime and penny perfectly....although the dime ID's closer to a quarter...maybe because it is silver? On the 8" dime however it wouldn't ID it right. It would hit it 2 out of 5 passes with the 5.3 coil and that impressed me...but wouldn't ID it right as the needle jumped and locked all the way to the right. I then went inside and put the stock 9.5 coil on and it hit consistently with every pass which really impressed me...but the needle still pegged all the way to the right? I'm wondering if there's a piece of trash of some type right there as well because my SE hits and ID's that 8" dime...but not from all directions. It will hit it from one way but when I circle the hole...the signal breaks up quite a bit.
I've not hunted anywhere except my test garden yet with the xl pro but have decided it's a definate keeper. Now I am going to get the sunray probe for it.
The only thing I can come up with is that the piece of trash throws the ID off on the 8" dime. It didn't matter where the signal balance was set at when I was testing. It still did the same thing.

 

[crazyman]

If you have it set to accept hotrocks deep coins especially recently buried coins will peg far right in the hotrock range of the meter when it's not sure. My ground is very mineralized and infested with hotrocks so I had to always run mine to reject hotrocks but a trick I used with great success on deep coins was when I got a broken signal with the needle bounce I would check the depth and if it was deep and small when sized I would flip it to accept and resweep over the center of the target. If the needle pegged to the right or the broken signal now came in solid it was usually a deep coin just at the edge of it's detection depth. I dug many deep coins this way.

 

[Hotcz70]

Actually all the settings are at preset. When I pop on the 5.3 I can jack up the signal balance...but even with the 9.5 coil the needle pegs to the right. There has to be a piece of crqp there close by because I took a silver dime outside with me last night and dropped it on the ground in a different spot. When I ran either coil over it at about 7 to 8" in the air...the needle pegged right on dime.
That 8" dime doesn't want to pinpoint right with the xl pro either so I know there is something real close as it wants wants to get a little stronger about 4" off the hole and won't get stronger at the hole center...where I know the dime is buried.

 

[jmaryt]

hello!..bryce!..yes!..USUALLY when the pro hits on a siver dime,the meter WILL peg more to the right towards the guarter area!..you are correct in assuming that the it reacts that way because of the silver metal!..this is because silver being a very strong conductor of electricity,the detector detects the precious metal in the coin and indicates a stronger reading on the meter!..also if you detect a silver quarter,the meter will give a more srtonger reading toward half dollar!..let me tell you in no uncertain terms,that when you "hit" silver with this baby,you KNOW it!.it will lock up on quarter ,or dime,or half,and the wonderful thing about the pro,that even if there is trash nearby at depth,you will STILL GET A LOCK UP ON THE METER FROM AT LEAST TWO OR MORE DIFFERENT ANGLES OF SWEEP,so as to give you ENOUGH information on the target to dig it!..trust me!.if it's silver,and she gets a sniff at depth,the pro will STILL give you enough information from different sweep angles to enable you to recover the target!

 

[jmaryt]

hi bryce!..i think you are right!..as evidenced by the fact that the detector WILL pick up the dime from different sweep angles,and will NOT pick it up from OTHER SWEEP ANGLES!..that is because it is rejecting something in the hole close to the dime!..i recommend you ALWAYS keep the detector in hot rock ACCEPT!..you will ALWAYS get cleaner,and smoother "hits" on targets if you set it up this way!..sometimes,epending on the area hunted,you will have to set it to hot rock REJECT,because of the mineralized rocks in the area!..the machine will "see" these rocks as targets,thus requiring you set it to reject them!

 

[Hotcz70]

I noticed is that I did not like the sat mode. A lot of people say that's the best mode for depth...but I got much stronger and solid target sounds with it in the disc mode.

 

[jmaryt]

hi bryce!
i have used the detector in both modes of operation,and can dicern litle difference between the two from a depth point of view!..what i can tell you is,that s.a.t. mode is better in the heavy trash,because the coil can be swept SLOWER,than in the discriminate mode,and the end result is better separation between targets,and a smoother,and cleaner audio quality from the detected targets!..if you use discriminate mode in the trash,then you run the risk od signals breaking up as a result of the coil being awept slightly faster to attain the best depth!also,when you are hunting in heavy crap,you WANT to go slower so you can hear everything going on under your coil,and acheive better separation of targets!

(h.h!)
j.t.