As the title says, just now necessary is tone ID on the Tesoro. I was sad to see that the Outlaw did not inherit tone ID from the golden umax but that's ok I guess. I never spent enough time using my silver umax or compadre to learn what the tones were telling me; it all seemed beep and dig. You experienced guys, just what can you tell from that one tone? Can you get to the point that you don't have to always rely on thumbing the discriminator or do you dig it all no matter what? Can you tell what you have often times by the sound of that single tone? I am looking really hard at the golden umax but part of me wants to try the outlaw if user reviews are favorable.
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Just how necessary are tones really?
- Thread starter Habanero
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Shenandoah Digger
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I never thought the single tone on the Tesoros was a problem, and I have a number of tone ID detectors. Depending on where you set the disc, a bad target will break up and a beer can will sound great, just like it does with every other detector. But the Tesoros will give a little better indication of it's size, unlike most digital detectors.
......Tones are nice as an extra tool to use....Single tones still sound different on Tesoro and other detectors....(Audio Sounds)...smooth, short, crisp, breaking...etc.....you just have to learn it....Most detectors can do a shape trace to inform you of target size...practice is all it takes...
With it's own language 
that one tone can give so much more information, even the Minelab guys that love muti-tone say they know what is in the ground by the tone. OK, I'll give them that, but a Tesoro will give a round tone on a good target, broken signals = bad targets and so forth. With a Tesoro, just like any detector made, you have to learn the language, get to know your detector well, and you will do fine with it.
that one tone can give so much more information, even the Minelab guys that love muti-tone say they know what is in the ground by the tone. OK, I'll give them that, but a Tesoro will give a round tone on a good target, broken signals = bad targets and so forth. With a Tesoro, just like any detector made, you have to learn the language, get to know your detector well, and you will do fine with it.Hombre said:With it's own language
Yea and I'm fine with the Tiger Shark having one tone because like you told me, I will set my discrimination low and dig it all while in the water. I just don't know how practical it will be on the land in trashy inner city parks where you have trash targets galore. Was just curious how you guys did in that kind of environment with the single beep units and no tones.
I spend about the same amount of time with the single tones as I do with multi-tones. That said, one thing that would be a real nice to have feature, with a simple light weight detector, is to have a two tone unit where you could set the discriminator at essentially all metal, hunt in a silent search mode and have a tone adjust where you could set where the tone breaks from the lower to the higher tone. Say set it to low tone iron and higher tone non-iron or where ever you want to set it. Adjust the tone switch point from somewhere in the small iron to small foil range and that would be one heck of a beep and dig detector. I understand one of the gold detectors can be set up like that and it is on my buy list when I have some more play money.
Multi-tones are not necessary, yet like Elton says, it's another tool.
tvr
Multi-tones are not necessary, yet like Elton says, it's another tool.
tvr
I'm still waiting for some civilian-genius who loves Tesoros to analyze the audio on a Compadre. I'm sure it wouldn't take much to get a graphic profile of an MD sound and compare the data between targets.
What I've noticed is that you can actually hear the discrimination on a Vaquero attempting to discriminate out a junk target with good headphones.
If you sweep over a zincoln while the disc is maxed, the V allows through a little blip of sound before eliminating it altogether with successive sweeps. But you can actually hear a whisper of the signal still there... I've dug enough of these out of curiosity to know it's a zincoln. You eventually learn to implicitly trust the disc on a Tesoro. It's a warm. fuzzy feeling to know the disc is there for you........
What I've noticed is that you can actually hear the discrimination on a Vaquero attempting to discriminate out a junk target with good headphones.
If you sweep over a zincoln while the disc is maxed, the V allows through a little blip of sound before eliminating it altogether with successive sweeps. But you can actually hear a whisper of the signal still there... I've dug enough of these out of curiosity to know it's a zincoln. You eventually learn to implicitly trust the disc on a Tesoro. It's a warm. fuzzy feeling to know the disc is there for you........
REVIER
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All kinds of tricks and tips to give you an ides of what you are scanning, like rimming a steel pop top with the edge of the coil.
As far as sound, one by one I am learning that there are many, many differences in that one tone.
It all sounded the same to me at first, but not anymore.
Pop tops and can slaw have a sharp annoying sound at the end of the signal, for instance, that coins and other good targets don't have.
As far as sound, one by one I am learning that there are many, many differences in that one tone.
It all sounded the same to me at first, but not anymore.
Pop tops and can slaw have a sharp annoying sound at the end of the signal, for instance, that coins and other good targets don't have.
Mike Hillis
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Tones are critical to me. Tone ID tells me everything. Tone ID allows me to run with NO discrimination. Tone Id saves me time, makes me more efficient and allows me to cover the most ground while I'm searching for my targets.
Some of my units have more than one Tone ID mode. I select the machine and tone id for the site and targets I'm looking for.
I have available to me a single tone VCO mode if I'm just looking for the really deep targets beyond a certain depth range.
I have available to me a dual tone ferrous/non-ferrous VCO mode that allows me to run with no disc (or some disc) and hear the iron and the non-iron.
I have available to me a 3 tone mode that lets me hear coins, aluminum trash and iron.
I have available to me a 4 tone mode that lets me hear the gold range separate from all the other ranges.
I have available to me a special gold tone audio window that is movable within the gold target range.
I have available to me a special dual ferrous/non-ferrous audio that sound together and unmask the iron mask non-ferrous targets.
I have available to me a adjustable low/high tone audio id that tells me when my target is dropping in conductivity.
Tone id is so critical to my success that I do not own, nor buy, nor even spend much time looking at single tone metal detectors. They waste my time, limit my finds, and generally make my detecting hours miserable.
HH
Mike
Some of my units have more than one Tone ID mode. I select the machine and tone id for the site and targets I'm looking for.
I have available to me a single tone VCO mode if I'm just looking for the really deep targets beyond a certain depth range.
I have available to me a dual tone ferrous/non-ferrous VCO mode that allows me to run with no disc (or some disc) and hear the iron and the non-iron.
I have available to me a 3 tone mode that lets me hear coins, aluminum trash and iron.
I have available to me a 4 tone mode that lets me hear the gold range separate from all the other ranges.
I have available to me a special gold tone audio window that is movable within the gold target range.
I have available to me a special dual ferrous/non-ferrous audio that sound together and unmask the iron mask non-ferrous targets.
I have available to me a adjustable low/high tone audio id that tells me when my target is dropping in conductivity.
Tone id is so critical to my success that I do not own, nor buy, nor even spend much time looking at single tone metal detectors. They waste my time, limit my finds, and generally make my detecting hours miserable.
HH
Mike
Mike Hillis said:
Mike, I see you have been detecting for some time now, and while I have to respect the time and experience you have in this hobby. I need to tell you that in MY experience with tones, the only nice thing I liked about them was using it in conjunction with the notch to help zero in on gold. And it works, I found a small womans gold ring a few days ago.
But for almost everything else, I can do it better, faster and dig less trash with a single toned detector.
Two schools of thought: Many like the tones as they no what ball park they are in from the get go and certainly a plus to many myself included.
Mono tone on the other hand usually tells you more about the target and for many easier to comprehend.
Easy solution in my mind one toggle to the left mono and to the right multiple tones. Sort of kill two birds with one stone analogy...
Gee maybe the above would sell less detectors or its cost prohibitive to do so, heck I don't know just a ground pounder like most of us.
I do know Tesoro make a solid unit and backs it with super service after the sale and you can take that to the bank.
Mono tone on the other hand usually tells you more about the target and for many easier to comprehend.
Easy solution in my mind one toggle to the left mono and to the right multiple tones. Sort of kill two birds with one stone analogy...
Gee maybe the above would sell less detectors or its cost prohibitive to do so, heck I don't know just a ground pounder like most of us.
I do know Tesoro make a solid unit and backs it with super service after the sale and you can take that to the bank.
Southwind
Well-known member
Of course tones are not necessary, but like having a display/VDI or even headphones, it can help if used properly.
For the first 25 years I used the "beep-N-dig" style detecting. The White's Eagle Spectrum taught me the value of a good VDI system, but not until I owned a Minelab did I see the value in a good tone ID system. Now I use tone ID on every detector I have.
For the first 25 years I used the "beep-N-dig" style detecting. The White's Eagle Spectrum taught me the value of a good VDI system, but not until I owned a Minelab did I see the value in a good tone ID system. Now I use tone ID on every detector I have.
joe dirt_1
Active member
The only detector I own with tones is my CZ5, but I can tell you with the small coil in a trashy park mainly looking for old coins it is a huge feature to have. No need to look at the meter with each signal. When I get that high coin tone I check for depth and a meter reading before digging.
I have pulled many silver coins and indian head pennies by having tones from these old parks. It cuts down on the trash I dig with only a single tone. Tones are a tool that can be very helpful in coin hunting.
Roger
I have pulled many silver coins and indian head pennies by having tones from these old parks. It cuts down on the trash I dig with only a single tone. Tones are a tool that can be very helpful in coin hunting.
Roger
Shenandoah Digger
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I love machines with tones, but sometimes I like to thumb the disc on the Tesoro to see where the signal breaks. If it doesn't break, whopeeeee. Part of the fun of detecting. I'm not trying to be a vacuum cleaner; just trying to have fun. I've found thousands of dollars worth of relics, but if I spent the time I hunt working, I'd be way ahead.