just got my 11" wide scan

[amcjavelin]

hey there just got my 11" wide scan and did more air testing a large cent will get 9" at best kennedy half dollar pre 64 9 1/2" buffalo nickel 6 1/2" clad dime 6" clad quarter 8" zinc penny almost 7" man this coil is bigger than i thought we'll when the ground ever thaws not for a couple months i'll report back and give an update!

 

[Tfor2]

First I want to say that if you were here I'd shake your hand. You are one of the few honest THers I think I've ever met online.

If this were on the ___________ forum you'd be getting dimes at 18 inches in the dirt.

Okay, the air tests aren't that great but that coil should handle the minerals in all soils a lot better plus you have better ground coverage. And we all know Tesoros, the real test comes in actual treasure hunting.

What machine are you using?

I just tested my Cutlass II uMax with the stock brown donut coil and this is what I get in air tests:

Note: I moved the coins by the coil slower like my swing speed (no whipping coins past the coil for a false exaggerated reading).

Both dime and quarter coins get the same air distance.

Very strong smooth signal at 7 inches and a broken sometimes signal at about 8.5 inches (if I whip the coin YouTube style I can get 10+ inches).

Sum: average in dirt depth for both dimes and quarters = 6 inches (mild soil 65).

Copper coins do better with Tesoros, copper wheats and nickels will air test well about 8 inches and in the dirt both will sound solid at about 7 inches deep.

The above test of my Cutlass is almost exactly what I found with my Fisher F-75.

I have used the 12x10 uMax concentric on a Silver uMax and it goes a lot deeper on coins than the stock 8 inch coil. It will go a good 2-3 inches deeper. But the coil is bulky and not good for heavy brush hunting due to the web design.

I would really like to try the 10 1/2 inch uMax donut shaped concentric which I understand some dealers still have them. I may order one soon.

 

[amcjavelin]

well let me know on that 10 1/2" donut i did'nt realize you could get one for the umax i thought it was for the tiger shark only i would like to try one of those myself, ok the machine i'm running is the eldorado which i'm hoping is the answer for coin hunting, ireally did well with my vaquero but what i wanted is 10khz and the manual ground bal, to me the 10 khz freqis one of the best coin getters in my experience!

 

[Tfor2]

well let me know on that 10 1/2" donut i did'nt realize you could get one for the umax i thought it was for the tiger shark only i would like to try one of those myself, ok the machine i'm running is the eldorado which i'm hoping is the answer for coin hunting, ireally did well with my vaquero but what i wanted is 10khz and the manual ground bal, to me the 10 khz freqis one of the best coin getters in my experience!

I didn't know this either but found them by searching dealers online. I wrote to one dealer but he hasn't responded yet. I wanted to know if the coil would work on my Cutlass.

When I think of buying from a new dealer (new to me) I usually email and ask a question first to see if they're on the ball. This saves a lot of grief.

 

[Nauti]

Wow,TWO honest people....well done on giving realistic air test depths.You read so much rubbish about depths in soil.....some claims are ridiculous.I don't want to rock the boat too much but 18" on any small target is just pure rubbish.....even if soil conditions are good.Most machines won't air test to 18" on small targets let alone do it in the ground.

 

[amcjavelin]

as much as i would like my tesoro be the deepest out there, just got to be truthful about it thats all, if i wanted something deep i would have a 2 box detector, they may not be the deepest but in my ground i can still find 200 year old coins right around 8" and anything deeper usually is in very soft soil or wet

 

[Tfor2]

Wow,TWO honest people....well done on giving realistic air test depths.You read so much rubbish about depths in soil.....some claims are ridiculous.I don't want to rock the boat too much but 18" on any small target is just pure rubbish.....even if soil conditions are good.Most machines won't air test to 18" on small targets let alone do it in the ground.

Thanks and you're right. I think all of us get carried away with depth claims because we're excited but if we exaggerate all the time after a while any mention of depth becomes meaningless.

Somebody saves their hard earned money, finally gets a detector, then becomes depressed because they're not getting 22 inches on a dime buried on edge.

Up until about 2 years ago I was very much into Nautilus which I still consider a good brand. I bought and sold 3 Nautilus IIbs before I finally figured out there was nothing wrong with any of them. But even with that monster 15 inch coil I couldn't detect buttons or coins anywhere near the claims.

I was always sending my IIbs in to have the coil sawed open and retuned, etc. I wasted a lot of money and bothered the heck out of the company for nothing (Nautilus company people are great). My problem wasn't the machines but I bought into the depth hype thing.

Nautilus, Minelab, Fisher, Bounty Hunter, Garrett, Whites, Tesoro...they all make great machines and each model has it's own special features. No one brand or model does it all for everybody.

 

[amcjavelin]

i don't know have you seen the insane money thats been going on ebay for the T-2 LTD line up i'm starting to wonder if theres gold lining inside those things i saw one sell on fee bay for $3500!

 

[Tfor2]

i don't know have you seen the insane money thats been going on ebay for the T-2 LTD line up i'm starting to wonder if theres gold lining inside those things i saw one sell on fee bay for $3500!

Hey, there's gold in dim dare hills!

 

[tvr]

Copper coins do better with Tesoros, copper wheats and nickels will air test well about 8 inches and in the dirt both will sound solid at about 7 inches deep.

Both my Cibola and Tejon air test further on nickles than on any other modern US coin. And the "what I've dug" indicators are that the deeper on nickles tends to follow the trend of the air test. The Compadre however, tests deeper on copper pennies and dimes than on nickles and is deeper on quarters.
tvr

 

[Nauti]

Hi Tfor2,i've got two Nautilus dmc2b's and they are cracking machines.....i've found loads with them.However,like you i have found that although deep machines they will get nowhere near the depths some people claim in any soil.I think even Nautilus themselves only claim between 12-14 inches on a single coin.I think to get that depth you would need mild soil conditions although such depths might be possible in the right conditions.I've had some deep finds with a tesoro cibola.....as deep as any other detector i've used....they are excellent machines.

 

[Tfor2]

Hi Tfor2,i've got two Nautilus dmc2b's and they are cracking machines.....i've found loads with them.However,like you i have found that although deep machines they will get nowhere near the depths some people claim in any soil.I think even Nautilus themselves only claim between 12-14 inches on a single coin.I think to get that depth you would need mild soil conditions although such depths might be possible in the right conditions.I've had some deep finds with a tesoro cibola.....as deep as any other detector i've used....they are excellent machines.

Yes I too like the Nautilus machines. For one they're more US made than most these days. With a lot of detects these days I think MADE IN THE USA means the stickers were added in this country. Some of the hottest have China written all over them (cheaply made and unstable).